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<DIV>I can't speak for the whole gigspace collective at this moment, but the line I think I've always tried to hold during my 'punk years' is that events are not for profit, or personal gain in the round, but I've taken a broader view on costs than those encountered at that moment in time at the gig, i.e. contribution to the total cost of a tour, not just our date on the tour, or contributions to ongoing costs of making our culture - equipment, etc. against the frequent losses that bands sustain and to keep our community going. I've tried to work with people who I feel will re-invest any small surplus back into our community to keep it alive and thriving. Any surplus made through running my record label was re-invested in supporting bands untill it was drained away by losses. But of course this is mostly theoretical, in reality gigs rarely meet the true costs of even the there and now.</DIV>
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<DIV>But of course this is just a view from the anarcho-punk community.</DIV>
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<DIV>Helene</DIV>
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<DIV><B><I>Joe Morris <malatesta_uk@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Cuthbert>joe, what is the difference between a band selling merchandise <BR>after their<BR>Cuthbert>gig (and charging people to get in and see them perform) and the <BR>proposed<BR>Cuthbert>art market?<BR><BR>That would depend on WHY they were selling the merchandise, not the fact<BR>they are doing it.<BR><BR>Cuthbert>In my opinion the difference is two fold on one level it is <BR>semantics<BR>Cuthbert>(alot of differences of opinion are based on language rather than<BR>Cuthbert>substance) and on a more practicle level at the proposed art market <BR>the<BR>Cuthbert>artist has offered at least 30% of any money made to go to matilda.<BR><BR>I was under the impression that bands sold merchandise to facilitate their <BR>tour.<BR>That includes having to buy food to eat, fuel, other travel costs.<BR><BR>I have no problem with Steve using Matilda and selling his
merchandise to <BR>facilitate<BR>his creativity, and if, within that, he wanted to donate money to Matilda, <BR>then<BR>that would be very generous of him.<BR><BR>Joe<BR><BR>_________________________________________________________________<BR>Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! <BR>http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>matilda mailing list<BR>matilda@lists.aktivix.org<BR>http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/matilda<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>
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