<DIV>Hello,</DIV> <DIV>To address the point about finances, I raised the issue at the meeting and it finally looks like there could be some movement towards the collation of financial information, with a view to having an open and transparent financial log of in comings and out goings, and hopefully a single secure location for funds. I don't believe there is any group who is privy to exclusive information regarding monies, it seems to me that there was/is no one fully in the know regarding such matters.</DIV> <DIV> I agree that it has been frustrating, not knowing if one could buy things, and be sure that you would be reimbursed from the Matilda kitty. This has undoubtedly slowed down the process of fixing up the building, but in future people should be able to make suggestions about what things money needs to be spent on, and there will be safety nets in place to stop unnecessary purchases or irresponsible spending, by means of capped fund allowances and
consensus agreement on things to be procured.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(So no wasting money on a harem of blow up fuck buddies, and trying to justify their purchase as vital to Matilda.)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On a different note there has already been talk in the last few e mails on the subject of "pop stars and free party sound systems" "of "bending truth", "bullying people", "an elite", "distorting the truth", "hypocrites" none of this sounds positive, or in the spirit of trust that I thought Mondays meeting agreed, should be fostered between collectives and all individuals at Matilda.</DIV> <DIV> Good night,</DIV> <DIV> Jez.<BR><BR><B><I>atw <againstthewar@totalserve.co.uk></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR><BR>cuthbert> On the issue of richard hauley, we would only get a donation<BR>cuthbert> if he sold his film onto MTV or
whoever and even then the<BR>cuthbert> donation has not been specified.<BR><BR>Could that not have been discussed and agreed at the meeting? Say<BR>Matilda gets XX% of the net profits?<BR><BR><BR><BR>cuthbert> Further by making this proposal on the night without the 7<BR>cuthbert> day waiting period you havent given us a chance to properly<BR>cuthbert> discuss it, let alone for anyone who happened to not be at<BR>cuthbert> that meeting to turn up to the next meeting and let their<BR>cuthbert> voice be heard.<BR><BR>I didn't know this was a requirement. Lots of things have been<BR>proposed in the past simply at meetings. If this is a new requirement<BR>then as far as I'm concerned it sucks. We seem to be very good at<BR>creating increasing bureaucracy - a poor show when something like half the folk<BR>at Matilda are supposed to be anarchists.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>cuthbert> If you want to compare the two proposals further then i could mention
the<BR>cuthbert> number of hours people put into the building to make the building far<BR>cuthbert> safer than when we started with it. Apparently richard hauley's people<BR>cuthbert> have offered a two day film making workshop or somthing but this<BR>cuthbert> information is all second or third hand from 0742 so i dont how much of it<BR>cuthbert> was 0742 being willing to bend the truth to get our agreement to his<BR>cuthbert> proposal.<BR><BR><BR>According to 0742 Eve Wood was there. Why couldn't she verify the<BR>offer?<BR><BR><BR><BR>cuthbert> My request to 0742 is that if he doesnt accept our decision<BR>cuthbert> making proccess to go and join the SWP where he can get<BR>cuthbert> away with bullying people into agreeing with him.<BR><BR><BR>I think he's already been kicked out.<BR><BR>However personally I don't think the decision making process is great<BR>at all. According the minutes from last night the reason this was not<BR>passed was because
"Issues were raised about people profiting from<BR>using the space."<BR><BR>According to the poll about profits at Matilda in which 46 people<BR>replied (far more than the average Monday meeting) over half said they<BR>didn't have a problem with people making money at Matilda.<BR><BR>That's not consensus. It's minority rule.<BR><BR>Also if 0742 is correct in the claim that NTA made £400 from the Dec<BR>gig then I think it's perfectly fair to say its hypocritical that this<BR>was not passed because of "issues about people profiting".<BR><BR>Finally I don't quite get the paranoia about talking about money. As<BR>long as its whereabouts are not disclosed I don't see how anyone would<BR>even think about trying to rob it. And it's only a few hundred quid<BR>after all (isn't it?). Do people honestly think that Sheffield's<BR>Gangster's are trawling through this email list to find out how much<BR>money we have? Unless there's some evidence to support such beliefs<BR>then as far as I'm
concerned that is delusional thinking.<BR><BR>All the Sheffield Indymedia accounts are discussed on our open email<BR>list and are also posted on the web and have been for years yet we've<BR>never had any problems. Simply type Sheffield Indymedia Bank account<BR>into Google and you'll find this page...<BR><BR>http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/ImcSheffieldBankAccount<BR><BR>Anyone in the world can view our accounts if they want to. No big deal<BR>at all. No one is interested.<BR><BR>With Matilda I have no idea of how much we have and actually I never<BR>have had more than an occasional sketchy guesstimate of what we've<BR>got, what its been spent on and what we owe. It never even gets<BR>brought up in Monday meetings. Such secretiveness is completely<BR>disempowering for those who don't know and creates an elite of those<BR>who do know. It's a shite way of doing things and should be changed<BR>immediately.<BR><BR>Happy New Year everyone (apart from the fact ketamine is now
illegal)!<BR><BR>steve<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>No virus found in this outgoing message.<BR>Checked by AVG Free Edition.<BR>Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: 06/01/2006<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>matilda mailing list<BR>matilda@lists.aktivix.org<BR>http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/matilda<BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR></DIV><p>
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