[MonashCommunityGarden] Permaculture sign

Tue Apr 6 23:06:52 UTC 2010

Good morning All,

Thanks Tim for the information.  Gary I will leave this to you to discuss 
with Tim and the builder about what is possible.

Regards,

Jayne

______________________________
Jayne Firman 
Client Services
Student and Community Services Division 
(BH)+61 3  9902 0443

From:
Tim Scott <timscott97 at gmail.com>
To:
Jayne Firman <Jayne.Firman at adm.monash.edu.au>
Cc:
environment.msa at adm.monash.edu.au, David.Pawley at adm.monash.edu.au, Terry 
Hogan <Terry.Hogan at adm.monash.edu.au>, Gary Morgan 
<Gary.Morgan at adm.monash.edu.au>, monashcommunitygarden at lists.aktivix.org, 
Mark Corea <Mark.corea at adm.monash.edu.au>, Gail Morgan 
<gail.morgan at adm.monash.edu.au>
Date:
03/04/2010 01:55 AM
Subject:
Re: Permaculture sign

Hi Jayne (et al.!),

Sorry for the slow response, and thanks for your support of the garden.  I 
hope you've received the forwarded email we originally sent re. Garden 
signage.

Gail Morgan from the Monash Student Association is organising a meeting 
with Gary and Peter Barnes which may happen on Friday, so if this email 
simply provides background for that, then wonderful and sorry for filling 
your inbox.  I haven't been told exactly what details we're meeting about, 
so this may all still be utterly relevant.

I'm still not sure if the plan from the Uni's end is to run with the plan 
we sent (forwarded to you) or if something more 'slick' is required.  I'm 
also not sure if the Uni plans to help with A-frame sized signs to put at 
the various entrances to the garden area, particularly the Nth-East & 
Sth-East corners where the path runs between the Campus Centre & the 
garden.  Otherwise we will make these ourselves.

Materials
The original idea was to leave materials somewhat open to Gary's gleaning 
abilities and initiative, though we're happy to help with sourcing, once 
we know what second hand, recycled or reclaimed materials Gary can easily 
lay his hands on and therefore what else there is to procure.

We have, for example, recently aquired a lot of window glass which was 
going to be thrown out.  We also have some corrugated iron off-site which 
could be cleaned up and used as shed roofing and/or wall/screen (depending 
on shed size & other materials used).  Mark Corea also kindly gave us some 
wooden bench-slats which were being thrown out, to use as stakes or for 
minor construction.

One of our garden members suggested that the bench-slats Mark gave us 
could be fastened together to make the board for the sign.  Text could be 
engraved into the wood, or sheet metal which could be bolted onto the 
sign.  The slats may otherwise be useful as stakes for the sign or as 
shed-building materials.

I'm also meeting with Mark Doggett from The Office of Environmental 
Sustainability on Friday to inspect materials currently stored in Building 
56 from the Uni 'cleanup'.

In summary...

We have:
2nd hand glass
Timber slats
(Probably) sheet metal from old filing cabinets etc.

Other possible materials for shed/sign could include:
Screen from tea-tree/brush or 2nd hand lattice (shed)
2nd hand corrugated iron (shed)
2nd hand timber (shed, sign)
Timber from arborists, not commercial forestry (shed, sign)
e.g. cypress we used for garden bed edging
FSC certified timber (shed, sign)
re. treated timber, we are running an organic garden, so if the sign is to 
be located near growing areas, we will want to avoid potential sources of 
leaching.  If attached to the shed nearby, the situation may be different.
An old sign from around uni, cleaned & reprinted for us (sign)
2nd hand perspex for constructing an alternative to the glass cabinet 
(sign)
An old whiteboard (sign)
waterproofed on the back & printed with 'Monash Permaculture Garden' on 
the front, to which we could attach laminated posters with magnets

Shed Location
David, Mark and I have identified a few potential shed locations, but a 
final location has, as far as I understand, never been confirmed.  A shed 
for large items/materials on the back of the Chem Lab Gas storage block 
would be useful, provided we also had another spot right at the garden for 
commonly used tools.  This decision may decide the viability of the [good] 
idea to attach signage to the shed.

We've recently realised our current make-shift shed can probably be 
modified to fit snugly and discretely under the bench at the garden, and 
we have plans to build more benches with storage to be housed on site 
where our gazebo/pergola is planned.

If you could possibly address further communications to the garden eList, 
it will help us (the gardeners) with improving communication & 
institutional memory.

Many thanks, and sorry for the long email.

Tim
for the Monash Permaculture Garden

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On 24 March 2010 14:48, Jayne Firman <Jayne.Firman at adm.monash.edu.au> 
wrote:

Hi Tim and Jess, 

David Pawley has asked me to liaise with you regarding a sign  and shed 
for the Permaculture Garden on Clayton campus.  Gary Morgan, the 
sign-writer needs to know specifically what materials you can and can't 
use (e.g. treated pine) so that he can meet with the builder and get a 
quote for the items. Otherwise we need to confirm pre-fabricated materials 
can be used. Gary and David have discussed the possibility of having the 
sign as one side of the shed.  Discussion with MSA regarding joint funding 
of these items needs to occur. 

Please email me the list of approved building materials and I will forward 
them to Gary to arrange a quote.  Once we have the quote, I will arrange a 
meeting with yourselves and Terry Hogan to discuss further. 

Regards 

Jayne Firman 
Office of the Campus Manager, Clayton 
(BH)+61 3  9902 0443

-- 
Tim Scott
timscott97 at gmail.com
0411 345 983
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