[pagan-magik] Re: pagan-magik fallujah

Barry O'Dea barryjohnodea at yahoo.co.uk
Mon Nov 22 14:23:11 GMT 2004


I agree with your sentiments about Fallujah steve, but whatever you think about the composition of resistance in the city, they are right to defend it against US occupation. Period.
 
As regards your point that "we now know the Soviet Union [was] worse than Nazi Germany"?  Do we?  Agreed, the stalinist ideology, or state socialism, did far more to bury the spirit of social revolution than any amount of capitalist propaganda but don't you think view this is a bit strong?
 
Is there proof/links etc is there to support this claim?

steve ash <steveash_2001 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Re Fallujah: Well all the evidence points to them
being organised by Saddam Hussein loyalists (the ones
still in Fallujah), so therefore 'Stalinist' fascists,
and/or by the Al Qaieda wannabes (the ones that legged
it from Fallujah before the massacre) so therefore
Islamic fascists. This might be western propaganda,
but then thats what the self deluded left once said
about the Soviet Union, and we now know that was even
worse than Nazi Germany. So I'm not interested in wish
fullfilment fantasies. That said if there was a
genuine People's Majahadeen I'd support them, given
the war crimes of the US. Though I've seen no evidence
of their existance.




> I'm also tempted to support the Iraqi resistance.
> I'm not sure why you 
> would consider people defending their homes to be
> "fascistic"???? What 
> have you been reading pray-tell?
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
> I don't know what Steve has been reading but I have
> read some
> pretty worrying stuff too. For example, Jo Wilding
> [1] (whose
> credentials could scarcely be better), apparently
> forwarded a
> comunique from the Organisation for Women's Freedom
> in Iraq [2]
> titled "Criminal acts committed by Islamists during
> the month
> of Ramadan against Women in Iraq" which contained
> extremely
> distubing allegations against Abdulla al-Janabi's
> Mujahideen
> fighters and others. Interestingly, the relevent
> link on the
> OWFI website is not working, but the communiqe is
> available
> here [3].
> 
> [1]: http://www.wildfirejo.org.uk/
> [2]: http://www.equalityiniraq.com/
> [3]:
>
http://www.sohh.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-515240
> 
> -- 
> Ian Gregory
> http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/
> 
> 
> This looks like it might be interesting:
> 
> Gender, Myth & Mythmaking: International Conference
> School of African & Oriental Studies
> 14th-15th December 2004
> 
>
http://www.soas.ac.uk/Religions/gender_myth/home.html
> 
> -- 
> Ian Gregory
> http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/
> 
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> 






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