[pagan-magik] speaking out

[sacha meaton]

Steve I wish you well, but I am completely stumped by your motivation 
for writing this kind of thing:

Steve (Dionysian Underground) wrote:

>Trouble is I feel more at home with
>counterculturalists as 'activists' tend to give me the
>creeps! :) Plus, I think we should support all
>independent 'peoples' movements, as opposed to anti G8
>movements, probably run by a bunch of leftists in
>secret meetings ;)
>
whether you are just bored & wanting to incite some kind of argument or 
what, i don't know...
however i really want to say i am getting impatient with your continual 
dissing of just about everything on this mail group-

If you dont identify with being an activist then what are you doing on 
this pagan magickal *activist *mail group?
 
I really support cultural hybridity and diversity, and i have a real 
problem when diversity gets marginalised so that only the voice of the 
mainstream speaks loud.
Which is part of my motivation for joining this group- empowering 
resistance to a world dominated and abused by the few in power. Steve 
your passion for magick and radical social change can be really 
inspiring. I know you have this spirit of resistance in mind, but some 
of your attacks (intentionally or not) come off as really authoritarian 
and may be having the very affect of silencing many/ Other/ voices on 
this mail group.

I find your negativity & agression towards a lot of things being 
discussed really discouraging, and is particularly off-putting for new 
members. What i joined this group for was to share & hear a multiplicity 
of different voices, discussing different ideas, rituals & actions, NOT 
just criticisms of the world coming from a tone of male authoritarian 
judgement. Nor do i really want to engage in online debates getting 
embroiled in 'rational' arguments, to me this is the realm of  political 
oppression. I do however want to speak up (and hopefully encourage 
others sitting in silence) to give voice to all kinds of views with out 
the fear of being shouted down by authoritative judgements....

And Steve i have to say, what you wrote really depresses me because i 
personally believe the G8 is something PMA should really be preparing 
for actively and magickally (although of course not everyone will be 
fully into it & thats fine) but with the dissent meeting that was on 
yesterday we could have actively been promoting it on this Magickal 
ACTIVIST group instead of sending out emails discouraging activism. I 
think saying activist meetings are held by 'a bunch of leftists in 
secret' is just such bullshit Steve- yesterdays anti G8 meeting was 
*open to the public and not at all in secret*- why you feel the need for 
making such harsh judgements alludes me....

i dont like having to post this kind of email, but i really felt i 
needed to speak up

calling out for the powers of transformation

Sacha