[pagan-magik] 911...read this
raga woods
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Wed Nov 16 14:01:55 GMT 2005
>>
>All, 911 is going mainstream....GET THIS!
>
>You may be aware that I had been participating in a Volume of Academic
>Research for the Journal 'Research in Political Economy.'
>
>Closing date for submissions was Nov 1st with the Volume to be published in
>the new year by Elseiver. (I was tied up with a University that felt it was
>innappropriate to even talk about this stuff and an intelligence agency
>that were promising not to kill one of our guests - and so had to forego my
>own submission). Nafeez will have a chapter in it however.
>
>Well, one chapter has already gone maionstream - Tucker Carlson type
>mainstream! Check it...TRANSCRIPT below...
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: Paul Zarembka <zarembka at buffalo.edu>
>Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:44:24 -0500
>
>All,
>
>You will recall that a bunch of us decided to put together a volume on
>9-11, having been brought together by Marcus' message to us late last July.
> It is entitled THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF 9-11-2001, and the entire volume
>will be a special of *Research in Political Economy* (hopefully published
>in the first quarter of next year).
>
>Now for the important news:
>
>Step 1: One chapter is by Steven Jones,
>
> "Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?"; his draft being
>available at
>
> http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
>
>Step 2: Within the past week Steve's work was first covered by a Utah
>newspaper:
>
> http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635160132,00.html
>
>Step 3: Then it got widespread circulation in the 9-11 truth movement.
>
>Step 4: Earlier today, Steve's work has HIT MSNBC! See
>
> "Questioning what happened on 9/11:
> Professor believes planes didn't cause all the damage around the WTC"
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10053445/#storyContinued
>
>In other words, STEVE'S WORK HAS GONE FULLY MAINSTREAM! In other words,
>QUESTIONING WHY WTC 1, 2 AND 7 COLLAPSED HAS GONE MAINSTREAM!
>
>If you have opportunities to push this along, please do so.
>
>Thanks, Paul Zarembka
>
>********************************************************************
>RESEARCH IN POLITICAL ECONOMY, Paul Zarembka, editor, Elsevier Science
>********************** http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PZarembka
>
>
>Questioning what happened on 9/11
>Professor believes planes didn't cause all the damage around the WTC
>
>Nov. 14 2005: Did planes really bring down the World Trade Center? The
>Situation's Tucker Carlson talks to one professor who says he has evidence
>that bombs might have been planted in the towers.
>
>MSNBC
>Updated: 1:51 p.m. ET Nov. 15, 2005
>
>Tucker Carlson
>Anchor, 'The Situation'
>
>Millions of people watched the horror of 9/11 right before their very eyes,
>live on television. Two planes, crashing into the World Trade Center.
>Less than a couple of hours later, both towers, of course, collapsing.
>
>On Monday, Tucker Carlson welcomed Brigham Young University Professor
>Steven Jones to the 'Situation.' Jones, a professor of physics, believes
>that the hijackers may not have brought down the towers by themselves.
>
>To read an excerpt of their conversation, continue to the text below. To
>watch the video, click on the "Launch" button to the right.
>
>TUCKER CARLSON: Well, just sum up this-obviously your theory, just the one
>sentence that I just explained, in the intro, contradicts what we all think
>we know about how these towers collapsed. Quickly sum up your explanation
>for what's happened.
>
>STEVEN JONES, BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY: ... What I'm doing, Tucker, is
>presenting evidence, but it's a hypothesis to be tested. That's a big
>difference from a conclusion, and so I just wanted to clarify that. But to
>sum up that I have looked at the official reports by FEMA, and so on...
>regarding the collapse of-yes, of these buildings. ...
>
>I'd like to look at the collapse of building seven in just a minute. It
>was not even hit by a jet. So we'll look at that one.
>
>CARLSON: The two towers. The explanation has been that the fire inside
>was so intense that it weakened the structural steel and that each floor
>collapsed down upon the next in a pancake fashion, and they imploded in on
>themselves. That's essentially, I think, what people think.
>
>JONES: Yes, that's basically it, yes. And so what I've done is to analyze
>these reports.
>
>I would like to do a little experiment with you, Tucker, if I could. I
>sent out a video clip of the collapse of Building seven, because most
>people haven't actually seen that one, and that's the crux of the argument.
>
>CARLSON: Can you sum up very quickly the argument for us? You believe
>there were explosives in the buildings planted by someone, detonated?
>
>JONES: Well, yes.
>
>CARLSON: Is that correct?
>
>JONES: ... There are two hypotheses here. One is fire and damage caused
>all three buildings to collapse.
>
>CARLSON: OK.
>
>JONES: The other is that explosives in the buildings may have caused the
>collapse. And so, then we analyze and see which fits the data better, and
>I've done that in my 25-page paper.
>
>CARLSON: I want to read you a quote from the 'Deseret Morning News,' a
>paper in Utah, from you. I'm quoting now.
>
>"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three
>buildings and set off after the two plane crashes, which are actually a
>diversion tactic. Muslims are probably not to blame for bringing down the
>World Trade Center buildings after all."
>
>That's, I would think, pretty offensive to a lot of the people listening.
>Do you have any evidence for that?
>
>JONES: Well, not-not to the Muslims, I might say.
>
>CARLSON: Well, that's good.
>
>JONES: I have a lot of e-mails.
>
>CARLSON: I'm sure your writings greeted with just glee in Islamabad, and
>Peshawar and places like that. But for Americans.
>
>JONES: Well, I haven't received notes from there, but just good people. I
>have Muslim friends. Let me read, for example, but I'm not going to let
>you off the hook. I really want to do this experiment with you.
>
>CARLSON: We don't have a lot of time for experiments, Professor. But if
>you could just ... give us one thing to hold onto. How-you make these
>claims, or appear to make these claims ...
>
>JONES: Tucker, sure, sure. Let's start with the collapse of Building
>seven. Can you roll the video clip that I sent to you?
>
>CARLSON: OK. I am not sure if we can, but that is the World Trade Center.
> It's smaller than the other two it was not hit by a plane.
>
>JONES: Let's try.
>
>CARLSON: Of course, it collapsed.
>
>JONES: Right. It's 47 stories.
>
>CARLSON: That's right.
>
>JONES: Twenty-four steel columns in the center.
>
>CARLSON: Right.
>
>JONES: Trusses, asymmetrically supported. Now, I can't see what you're
>seeing. Are we rolling that?
>
>CARLSON: No. We just see the building. And just so our viewers know, the
>explanation that I think is conventional is that there was a large tank of
>diesel fuel stored in the lower level of that, which caught fire, and the
>resulting fire collapsed the building.
>
>JONES: Well, that's basically it, yes, but as we read in the FEMA report,
>it says here, and I put this in my paper, of course. "The best hypothesis,
>which is the only one they looked at, fire, has only a low probability of
>occurrence. Further investigation analyses are needed to resolve this
>issue, and I agree with that."
>
>CARLSON: OK.
>
>JONES: But they admit there's only a low probability, and if you look at
>the collapse, you see what I have studied is the fall time, the symmetry,
>the fact that it first dips in the middle. That's called the kink. Which
>is very characteristic, of course, of controlled demolition.
>
>CARLSON: Professor, I am sorry that we are out of time ...
>
>JONES: Whoa, one other thing I want to mention.
>
>CARLSON: Ok. If you can hit it - hit it quickly.
>
>JONES: OK. All right. Here we go. Molten metal in the basements of all
>three buildings.
>
>CARLSON: Right.
>
>JONES: And yet all scientists now reasonably agree that the fires were not
>sufficiently hot to melt the steel, so what is this molten metal? It's
>direct evidence for the use of high-temperature explosives, such as
>thermite, which produces molten iron as an end product.
>
>CARLSON: OK.
>
>JONES: It's very short time, but people will read the paper, then I talk
>about the molten metal, the symmetry of the collapse, and the weaknesses
>and inadequacies of the fire hypothesis.
>
>CARLSON: Professor, we are going to have to leave it to our viewers who
>are interested enough to follow up to do just that. We appreciate you
>coming on, even if I don't understand your theories, we appreciate you
>trying to explain them. Thanks.
>
>Watch 'The Situation with Tucker Carlson' each weeknight at 11 p.m. ET
>
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