<DIV>I simply assumed Derek was merely being formal, as i was, and referring to the temple by its 'official name'. Obviously our reclaimation re-inaugarated it as a Dionysian Temple.Take your point on the solar element with regard to Dionysus. </DIV>
<DIV>I am not averse to working with solar energies per se however, for the sun does not of itself imply male solar energies. The Goddess has her solar aspects also, for example i have come across references to the goddess as 'The Flaming Sun'.<BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR><B><I>"Steve (Dionysian Underground)" <dionysian_underground@yahoo.co.uk></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I agree actually, I had thought 'Derek' (why Derek,<BR>Barry?) was just being lazy with the name and refering<BR>to the Dionysos Temple by its 'official name', the<BR>Mithras Temple. But come to think of it there isn't<BR>really a solar connection with Dionysos (unless you<BR>push the Phanes connection and the 'summer light')<BR>while Mithras is a solar deity,<BR>so we WOULD be working with the wrong energy.<BR><BR>I would rather mourn the Horned God at Solstice<BR>actually or anything to do with death. :)<BR><BR>By the way Jocelyn did you get the Jerusalem map I<BR>sent after searching for it last night, as I see you<BR>didn't post any acknowledgement or thank you? See you<BR>tommorrow.<BR><BR>Steve<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--- Jocelyn Chaplin <JOCHAPLIN@YAHOO.COM>wrote: <BR>> Hi Everyone,<BR>> <BR>> Great workshops and rituals last weekend.....great<BR>>
energy........great networking......<BR>> However..........<BR>> Whatever<BR>> Mithras<BR>> may have originally been, by the time the Romans<BR>> built<BR>> that temple in the city it was a men only,<BR>> militaristic 'cult' which I for one want NO<BR>> connection<BR>> with at all. The whole point of reclaiming the<BR>> temple<BR>> was to do it for the Dionysian current.It was<BR>> eventually changed into a Dionysian temple. Most of<BR>> us<BR>> were tuning into that energy..........<BR>> <BR>> So I don't go for the Mithras - Winter solstice idea<BR>> AT ALL. Also I like to do something different if<BR>> possible every time, be creative. 'You can't step<BR>> into<BR>> the same river twice'........etc <BR>> <BR>> I didn't get to hear about the temple stone project<BR>> but would still like to be involved in the Jerusalem<BR>> project....I posted some ideas a couple of weeks ago<BR>> ..... but perhaps a meeting
just on that would be<BR>> good...Are you back here Lillith????<BR>> <BR>> See some of you tomorrow....<BR>> <BR>> Love and power,<BR>> Jocelyn.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- pantherius amokus <MUTADOG93@YAHOO.CO.UK>wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Excellent idea. We would need to do it at dawn.<BR>> > Would be very powerful to perform such a ritual as<BR>> > the sun rises over the city. After all, our<BR>> Mithras<BR>> > ritual during the ESF was, amongst other intents,<BR>> an<BR>> > act of reclaiming the temple. With this in mind,<BR>> let<BR>> > us utilise the temple. What better time to<BR>> re-charge<BR>> > our original intents regarding dissolving the<BR>> > Heirarchies than at the Winter Solstice.<BR>> > <BR>> > on the subject of Mithras, maybe as a group we<BR>> could<BR>> > ritual the re-birth of the sun at the Mithras<BR>> Temple<BR>> > on 21 Dec<BR>> > <BR>> >
----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: "derek axion" <BR>> > To: "pantherius amokus" ,<BR>> > dionysian_underground@yahoo.co.uk,<BR>> > pagan-magik@lists.aktivix.org<BR>> > Subject: Re: [pagan-magik] Mithras Murder<BR>> > Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 09:15:34 -0500<BR>> > <BR>> > say no more<BR>> > <BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: "pantherius amokus" <BR>> > To: dionysian_underground@yahoo.co.uk,<BR>> > pagan-magik@lists.aktivix.org<BR>> > Subject: Re: [pagan-magik] Mithras Murder<BR>> > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:22:44 +0000 (GMT)<BR>> > <BR>> > Hmmm.. I will say no more.<BR>> > Hmmmm!<BR>> > <BR>> > "Steve (Dionysian Underground)"<BR>> > <DIONYSIAN_UNDERGROUND@YAHOO.CO.UK>wrote:<BR>> > I notice one of the Legal and General Directors<BR>> > responsible for the preservation of the Mithras /<BR>> > Dionysos Temple in the City was
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