<P>yes steve, you are right, i assumed we had reclaimed the mythras temple for dionysus+could celebrate that but, as i said in a v long email which seems to have been lost in cyberspace because of my crap PC - no problem, let's just do the solstice somewhere else?</P>
<P><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Steve (Dionysian Underground)" <DIONYSIAN_UNDERGROUND@YAHOO.CO.UK><BR>To: "Jocelyn Chaplin" <JOCHAPLIN@YAHOO.COM>, "pantherius amokus" <MUTADOG93@YAHOO.CO.UK>, "derek axion" <ARMEDMAY@MAIL.COM>, pagan-magik@lists.aktivix.org <BR>Subject: Re: [pagan-magik] Re: winter solstice <BR>Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 01:10:30 +0000 (GMT) <BR><BR>> <BR>> I agree actually, I had thought 'Derek' (why Derek, <BR>> Barry?) was just being lazy with the name and refering <BR>> to the Dionysos Temple by its 'official name', the <BR>> Mithras Temple. But come to think of it there isn't <BR>> really a solar connection with Dionysos (unless you <BR>> push the Phanes connection and the 'summer light') <BR>> while Mithras is a solar deity, <BR>> so we WOULD be working with the wrong energy. <BR>> <BR>> I would rather mourn the Horned God at Solstice <BR>> actually or anything to do with death. :) <BR>> <BR>> By the way Jocelyn did you get the Jerusalem map I <BR>> sent after searching for it last night, as I see you <BR>> didn't post any acknowledgement or thank you? See you <BR>> tommorrow. <BR>> <BR>> Steve <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- Jocelyn Chaplin <JOCHAPLIN@YAHOO.COM>wrote: <BR>> > Hi Everyone, <BR>> > <BR>> > Great workshops and rituals last weekend.....great <BR>> > energy........great networking...... <BR>> > However.......... <BR>> > Whatever <BR>> > Mithras <BR>> > may have originally been, by the time the Romans <BR>> > built <BR>> > that temple in the city it was a men only, <BR>> > militaristic 'cult' which I for one want NO <BR>> > connection <BR>> > with at all. The whole point of reclaiming the <BR>> > temple <BR>> > was to do it for the Dionysian current.It was <BR>> > eventually changed into a Dionysian temple. Most of <BR>> > us <BR>> > were tuning into that energy.......... <BR>> > <BR>> > So I don't go for the Mithras - Winter solstice idea <BR>> > AT ALL. Also I like to do something different if <BR>> > possible every time, be creative. 'You can't step <BR>> > into <BR>> > the same river twice'........etc I didn't get to hear about the <BR>> > temple stone project <BR>> > but would still like to be involved in the Jerusalem <BR>> > project....I posted some ideas a couple of weeks ago <BR>> > ..... but perhaps a meeting just on that would be <BR>> > good...Are you back here Lillith???? <BR>> > <BR>> > See some of you tomorrow.... <BR>> > <BR>> > Love and power, <BR>> > Jocelyn. <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > --- pantherius amokus <MUTADOG93@YAHOO.CO.UK>wrote: <BR>> > <BR>> > > Excellent idea. We would need to do it at dawn. <BR>> > > Would be very powerful to perform such a ritual as <BR>> > > the sun rises over the city. After all, our <BR>> > Mithras <BR>> > > ritual during the ESF was, amongst other intents, <BR>> > an <BR>> > > act of reclaiming the temple. With this in mind, <BR>> > let <BR>> > > us utilise the temple. What better time to <BR>> > re-charge <BR>> > > our original intents regarding dissolving the <BR>> > > Heirarchies than at the Winter Solstice. <BR>> > > > on the subject of Mithras, maybe as a group we <BR>> > could <BR>> > > ritual the re-birth of the sun at the Mithras <BR>> > Temple <BR>> > > on 21 Dec <BR>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > > From: "derek axion" > To: "pantherius amokus" , <BR>> > > dionysian_underground@yahoo.co.uk, <BR>> > > pagan-magik@lists.aktivix.org <BR>> > > Subject: Re: [pagan-magik] Mithras Murder <BR>> > > Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 09:15:34 -0500 <BR>> > > > say no more <BR>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > > From: "pantherius amokus" > To: dionysian_underground@yahoo.co.uk, <BR>> > > pagan-magik@lists.aktivix.org <BR>> > > Subject: Re: [pagan-magik] Mithras Murder <BR>> > > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:22:44 +0000 (GMT) <BR>> > > > Hmmm.. I will say no more. <BR>> > > Hmmmm! <BR>> > > > "Steve (Dionysian Underground)" <BR>> > > <DIONYSIAN_UNDERGROUND@YAHOO.CO.UK>wrote: <BR>> > > I notice one of the Legal and General Directors <BR>> > > responsible for the preservation of the Mithras / <BR>> > > Dionysos Temple in the City was murdered today. <BR>> > > > Sreve <BR>> > > > ===== <BR>> > > Opposing Utopia for the sake of its Realisation <BR>> > > > > > > > <BR>> > <BR>> ___________________________________________________________ <BR>> > > > ALL-NEW Yahoo! 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