[Radical_childcare] [Fwd: Re: Cool name!]

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Subject: Re: [Radical_childcare] Cool name!
From:    "faith Kenrick" <faircraft2002 at yahoo.co.uk>
Date:    Mon, September 28, 2009 9:57 am
To:      feministchildrearing at riseup.net
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Hilo
The dialogue about a name prompts me to think of a variant of your
existing one - after all, calling it 'kids collective' ( to drop the other
elements for the sake of a quick point - but leaving them in really!)
means we are all kids at heart, and that's why the collective does
childcare/creative events at adults meetings that make space for
children/arrange play opportunities for our 'inner child' to have needs
met . . . and never forget that some children get little rest from doing
their parenting themselves, a tough business if they have drug abusing or
alchol addicted parents or are child carers with parents who are disabled
in some way. Hope |I can get to one of the meetings - met a few who had
some playstuff organised at  Brockwell county Fair outside the climate
camp marquee. Faith
Thought for the Day: "Change the way you look at things and the things you
look at change." Dr. Wayne Dyer (Emotional Freedom Technique nugget)


--- On Sun, 27/9/09, feministchildrearing at riseup.net
<feministchildrearing at riseup.net> wrote:

> From: feministchildrearing at riseup.net <feministchildrearing at riseup.net>
> Subject: Re: [Radical_childcare] Cool name!
> To: tumbleweed_freed at riseup.net
> Cc: "radical childcare" <radical_childcare at lists.aktivix.org>
> Date: Sunday, 27 September, 2009, 8:24 PM
> Also!...
>
> i reckon maybe we should use the next meeting to discuss
> what we each want
> to get out of the group, what we see the use of the group,
> and what the
> group was set up for etc, what we mean by 'radical', how
> child-led we can
> realistically be etcetc...
>
> Once that is all clear, we then can decide on the most
> suitable name. I
> know a game that is for groups to collectively create a
> 'mission
> statement' for their group ( ie a blurb about what the main
> aspects of the
> group are) and from there a name can be found. If people
> wanna play this i
> can arrange it for next meeting?
>
> Eg, is this collective a support network? childcare
> provider? action
> group? lobby group? group for adults with childcare
> responsibilites? group
> for kids autonomy? etc.
>
> My understanding is that at the moment we are all of those
> and more,
> whatever we want to be at whatever time by whatever people,
> whatever
> people in the colelctive want to do then this is a group
> that we all
> facilitate others within the collective to do an
> action/event/support
> others outside the group etcetc, and therefore we need to
> have a
> wide-ranging name that encompasses all of this and isnt too
> specific.
>
> hmm...! anyway, if you all wanna go with the LRKC then im
> more than happy,
> we dont wanna get too taken up by name decisons we just
> wanna get on with
> it hey! i just thought i would brainstorm a little while i
> had the time
> xx
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > yep im fine with the name 'london radilca kids
> collective' just for ease,
> > but as we discussed in the meeting, it could be taken
> in two ways: 1) that
> > we are a collecitve for london's radical kids, 2) that
> we are run by the
> > kids as a kids' colletive and we are radical in
> london.
> >
> > we definately are not a kids' collecitve at the moment
> obviously as the
> > kids havent been consulted on anything much so far!
> but this was the idea
> > at the start of this group that we really would be
> more child-led and once
> > the group was running well, that we'd have more
> opportunity to let the
> > kids take charge a bit, or do events/encourage others
> to big-up the
> > child-led aspects. Easier said than done, but this
> collective was not set
> > up by kids, it was set up by concerned adults.
> >
> > Also we still havent had the discussion what do we
> mean by 'radical'. im
> > sure most of us that have been involved are on the
> same levels, but we
> > still need to clarify this. Would the word
> 'autonomous' be better to use
> > instead?
> >
> > At the moment there are more adults involved in the
> collecitve than kids,
> > and most of those kids are under the ages of 4 (i
> think), and a third are
> > 2 or under. obviously a family could get involed with
> older kids but at
> > the moment, its not gonna be easy to faciliatate a
> kids collecitve with
> > the kids we have coming at the moment!!
> >
> > Can we not have a name for us adults as a collective,
> and then in the
> > future when we get to the stage of facilitating the
> kids in what they want
> > to do, they can set up their own kids' collective. we
> cant set up a kids
> > collecitve for them! Or not have a kids' colelctive
> separate at all, but
> > have an adults and kids collecitve combined: so just
> as we are now, but
> > with way more child-led stuff within it?
> >
> > If so, then the name might have to be something
> longwinded like:
> > the London Autonomous Collective for Supporting
> Parents and Kids (LACSPK)
> > or
> > the London Collective for Radical Adults and Kids
> (LCRAK) or just
> > the Collecitve for Radical Adults and Kids (CRAK) or
> > Autonomy for Parents and Kids Collective (APKC)
> >
> > OR just have a one word name such as: RadiKids- a
> London collecitive for
> > radical kids and adults. Or, Kids Autonomy Now!
> (KAN!)
> >
> > OR for ease, what about:
> > London Radical Collective for Kids
> >
> > Ok, will let you get back to all your busy lives now
> and sign out before
> > your brains burst
> >
> > x
> >
> >> Thought I'd get in there before the 28th deadline
> to say I like the name
> >> "London Radical Kids Collective".  I
> also think it might imply that we
> >> are a "kids' collective", and that we are all kids
> and this is our
> >> radical
> >> collective!  Maybe not, but I like the fact
> that it sounds like we're
> >> not
> >> just a group of adults and think it's something we
> should start putting
> >> into practice a bit more.  I suppose
> realistically it would be very
> >> different asking for Molly's opinion on some
> issue from what we might
> >> get
> >> out of Kayden, but I do think we should think
> seriously about modelling
> >> some of the things that we mention in the
> fantastic group statement
> >> about
> >> involving kids in activism.  Hmmm, just an idea
> but not very well
> >> thought
> >> through yet!
> >>  
> >> Sorry for the 2 separate emails. 
> >>  
> >> Peace and love
> >>  
> >> Jon
> >>  
> >>  
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 22/9/09, Anna Davies <annmaridav at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Anna Davies <annmaridav at hotmail.com>
> >> Subject: [Radical_childcare] Minutes of Meeting
> 21st September 2009
> >> To: "radical childcare" <radical_childcare at lists.aktivix.org>
> >> Date: Tuesday, 22 September, 2009, 4:39 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In Attendance:  Anna D, Una, Molly, Maggie,
> Gemma, Kayden, Emel, Nihir
> >> (Sorry about spelling!)
> >>  
> >>  
> >>
> >> Climate Camp
> >>  
> >> The group discussed how the kids space went at
> climate camp.  It was
> >> decided to prompt everyone who was there to write
> a short report of
> >> their
> >> feelings about it, then we can amalgamate this
> into a larger
> >> report/record
> >> to feed back into the next gathering, to help
> organising the space in
> >> the
> >> future.
> >>  
> >> Here are a few of the conclusions we came to at
> the meeting.
> >>  
> >>
> >> Saturday was the most amazing day of the kids
> space, it was packed out
> >> with longer term campers and many local families
> visiting for the day. 
> >> There were lots of exciting workshops with good
> feedback, and even an
> >> on-site Rabbit!
> >> In General there was not enough support from the
> rest of the campers,
> >> despite constantly trying to rally for help. 
> There was no mass day of
> >> action this year, which means there should have
> been ample amount of
> >> people on site at any one time to help with the
> space. 
> >> There was really good feedback from local
> residents of Blackheath.  One
> >> parent stated she had brought her kids along to
> learn about Climate
> >> Change
> >> and they’d had a really good day.
> >> Despite a sign put up in the space, some parents
> used the space as a
> >> crèche and left children un attended.
> >> The ‘kids toilets’ were too far away
> from the kids space.
> >> There should have been early lunch provision for
> kids, as the lunch
> >> queues
> >> were incredibly long at all the kitchens.
> >> There was no legal briefing from the camp, with
> regards to last years
> >> camp, and it became apparent that incidents with
> the police, lack of
> >> support etc were reasons why last years kids space
> organisers did not
> >> get
> >> involved with the camp this year.
> >>  
> >> Action Points’s
> >>  
> >>
> >> Gemma to email Nick regarding footage taken of the
> kids march.
> >> Una to try and locate the missing circus
> equipment
> >> Everyone feed into the list their thoughts and
> feelings about how the
> >> space went
> >>  
> >>  
> >>
> >> Setting up a blog, group admin and Group name
> >>  
> >> It was decided that setting up an online blog
> would be a good idea.  To
> >> be a central point for people to post links,
> resources, reports, photos
> >> etc, and a place for people to find out about our
> collective, when we
> >> start to produce leaflets etc, this can be linked
> on there.
> >>  
> >> This then rolled into a discussion about the name
> of our group, and the
> >> fact that the ‘Radical Childcare
> Collective’ was always intended as
> >> a
> >> temporary name. 
> >>  
> >> It was decided that it is quite important to drop
> or replace the word
> >> ‘childcare’ from this title, for two
> reasons. Firstly the word in
> >> itself is a debated term.  And secondly it does
> not represent the
> >> umbrella of areas the group does, or may wish to
> be involved with in the
> >> future.  We don’t ‘provide
> childcare’ and this may be suggested
> >> by
> >> retaining the word.
> >>  
> >> A new suggestion was discussed.  LONDON RADICAL
> KIDS COLLECTIVE
> >>  
> >> We want to open this up for discussion before a
> decision is made so
> >> welcome new suggestions to the list please! 
> >>  
> >> We need to confirm the name in order to set up the
> blog change the name
> >> of
> >> the list, produce information etc so we will give
> the discussion til say
> >> the 28th of this month, then take it from there.
> >>  
> >> Action Points:
> >>  
> >>
> >> Anna to put out new thread to the list for name
> discussion, along with
> >> the
> >> group statement.
> >> Anna to set up blog once this is decided
> >> Anna to check email account and admin list until
> the next meeting
> >>  
> >>  
> >>
> >> Next meeting
> >>  
> >> The group felt a meeting to discuss the direction
> of the group and set
> >> some short term and long term goals would be
> good.  And we should try
> >> and
> >> build for this meeting but networking with other
> groups and possibly
> >> leafleting relevant events (only possible when all
> of number 2 is
> >> achieved!)
> >> Una will facilitate the next meeting, arrange the
> location etc and send
> >> out reminders.
> >>  
> >> Action Points:
> >>  
> >> Una to create a ‘doodle’ and post to
> the list to find the best time
> >> for the next meeting.
> >>  
> >>  
> >>
> >>
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