[Radical_childcare] Cool name!

feministchildrearing at riseup.net feministchildrearing at riseup.net
Sun Sep 27 20:24:54 BST 2009 

Also!...

i reckon maybe we should use the next meeting to discuss what we each want
to get out of the group, what we see the use of the group, and what the
group was set up for etc, what we mean by 'radical', how child-led we can
realistically be etcetc...

Once that is all clear, we then can decide on the most suitable name. I
know a game that is for groups to collectively create a 'mission
statement' for their group ( ie a blurb about what the main aspects of the
group are) and from there a name can be found. If people wanna play this i
can arrange it for next meeting?

Eg, is this collective a support network? childcare provider? action
group? lobby group? group for adults with childcare responsibilites? group
for kids autonomy? etc.

My understanding is that at the moment we are all of those and more,
whatever we want to be at whatever time by whatever people, whatever
people in the colelctive want to do then this is a group that we all
facilitate others within the collective to do an action/event/support
others outside the group etcetc, and therefore we need to have a
wide-ranging name that encompasses all of this and isnt too specific.

hmm...! anyway, if you all wanna go with the LRKC then im more than happy,
we dont wanna get too taken up by name decisons we just wanna get on with
it hey! i just thought i would brainstorm a little while i had the time
xx

> Hi all,
>
> yep im fine with the name 'london radilca kids collective' just for ease,
> but as we discussed in the meeting, it could be taken in two ways: 1) that
> we are a collecitve for london's radical kids, 2) that we are run by the
> kids as a kids' colletive and we are radical in london.
>
> we definately are not a kids' collecitve at the moment obviously as the
> kids havent been consulted on anything much so far! but this was the idea
> at the start of this group that we really would be more child-led and once
> the group was running well, that we'd have more opportunity to let the
> kids take charge a bit, or do events/encourage others to big-up the
> child-led aspects. Easier said than done, but this collective was not set
> up by kids, it was set up by concerned adults.
>
> Also we still havent had the discussion what do we mean by 'radical'. im
> sure most of us that have been involved are on the same levels, but we
> still need to clarify this. Would the word 'autonomous' be better to use
> instead?
>
> At the moment there are more adults involved in the collecitve than kids,
> and most of those kids are under the ages of 4 (i think), and a third are
> 2 or under. obviously a family could get involed with older kids but at
> the moment, its not gonna be easy to faciliatate a kids collecitve with
> the kids we have coming at the moment!!
>
> Can we not have a name for us adults as a collective, and then in the
> future when we get to the stage of facilitating the kids in what they want
> to do, they can set up their own kids' collective. we cant set up a kids
> collecitve for them! Or not have a kids' colelctive separate at all, but
> have an adults and kids collecitve combined: so just as we are now, but
> with way more child-led stuff within it?
>
> If so, then the name might have to be something longwinded like:
> the London Autonomous Collective for Supporting Parents and Kids (LACSPK)
> or
> the London Collective for Radical Adults and Kids (LCRAK) or just
> the Collecitve for Radical Adults and Kids (CRAK) or
> Autonomy for Parents and Kids Collective (APKC)
>
> OR just have a one word name such as: RadiKids- a London collecitive for
> radical kids and adults. Or, Kids Autonomy Now! (KAN!)
>
> OR for ease, what about:
> London Radical Collective for Kids
>
> Ok, will let you get back to all your busy lives now and sign out before
> your brains burst
>
> x
>
>> Thought I'd get in there before the 28th deadline to say I like the name
>> "London Radical Kids Collective".  I also think it might imply that we
>> are a "kids' collective", and that we are all kids and this is our
>> radical
>> collective!  Maybe not, but I like the fact that it sounds like we're
>> not
>> just a group of adults and think it's something we should start putting
>> into practice a bit more.  I suppose realistically it would be very
>> different asking for Molly's opinion on some issue from what we might
>> get
>> out of Kayden, but I do think we should think seriously about modelling
>> some of the things that we mention in the fantastic group statement
>> about
>> involving kids in activism.  Hmmm, just an idea but not very well
>> thought
>> through yet!
>>  
>> Sorry for the 2 separate emails. 
>>  
>> Peace and love
>>  
>> Jon
>>  
>>  
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>> --- On Tue, 22/9/09, Anna Davies <annmaridav at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> From: Anna Davies <annmaridav at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [Radical_childcare] Minutes of Meeting 21st September 2009
>> To: "radical childcare" <radical_childcare at lists.aktivix.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, 22 September, 2009, 4:39 PM
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>> In Attendance:  Anna D, Una, Molly, Maggie, Gemma, Kayden, Emel, Nihir
>> (Sorry about spelling!)
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>> Climate Camp
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>> The group discussed how the kids space went at climate camp.  It was
>> decided to prompt everyone who was there to write a short report of
>> their
>> feelings about it, then we can amalgamate this into a larger
>> report/record
>> to feed back into the next gathering, to help organising the space in
>> the
>> future.
>>  
>> Here are a few of the conclusions we came to at the meeting.
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>> Saturday was the most amazing day of the kids space, it was packed out
>> with longer term campers and many local families visiting for the day. 
>> There were lots of exciting workshops with good feedback, and even an
>> on-site Rabbit!
>> In General there was not enough support from the rest of the campers,
>> despite constantly trying to rally for help.  There was no mass day of
>> action this year, which means there should have been ample amount of
>> people on site at any one time to help with the space. 
>> There was really good feedback from local residents of Blackheath.  One
>> parent stated she had brought her kids along to learn about Climate
>> Change
>> and they’d had a really good day.
>> Despite a sign put up in the space, some parents used the space as a
>> crèche and left children un attended.
>> The ‘kids toilets’ were too far away from the kids space.
>> There should have been early lunch provision for kids, as the lunch
>> queues
>> were incredibly long at all the kitchens.
>> There was no legal briefing from the camp, with regards to last years
>> camp, and it became apparent that incidents with the police, lack of
>> support etc were reasons why last years kids space organisers did not
>> get
>> involved with the camp this year.
>>  
>> Action Points’s
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>> Gemma to email Nick regarding footage taken of the kids march.
>> Una to try and locate the missing circus equipment
>> Everyone feed into the list their thoughts and feelings about how the
>> space went
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>> Setting up a blog, group admin and Group name
>>  
>> It was decided that setting up an online blog would be a good idea.  To
>> be a central point for people to post links, resources, reports, photos
>> etc, and a place for people to find out about our collective, when we
>> start to produce leaflets etc, this can be linked on there.
>>  
>> This then rolled into a discussion about the name of our group, and the
>> fact that the ‘Radical Childcare Collective’ was always intended as
>> a
>> temporary name. 
>>  
>> It was decided that it is quite important to drop or replace the word
>> ‘childcare’ from this title, for two reasons. Firstly the word in
>> itself is a debated term.  And secondly it does not represent the
>> umbrella of areas the group does, or may wish to be involved with in the
>> future.  We don’t ‘provide childcare’ and this may be suggested
>> by
>> retaining the word.
>>  
>> A new suggestion was discussed.  LONDON RADICAL KIDS COLLECTIVE
>>  
>> We want to open this up for discussion before a decision is made so
>> welcome new suggestions to the list please! 
>>  
>> We need to confirm the name in order to set up the blog change the name
>> of
>> the list, produce information etc so we will give the discussion til say
>> the 28th of this month, then take it from there.
>>  
>> Action Points:
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>> Anna to put out new thread to the list for name discussion, along with
>> the
>> group statement.
>> Anna to set up blog once this is decided
>> Anna to check email account and admin list until the next meeting
>>  
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>> Next meeting
>>  
>> The group felt a meeting to discuss the direction of the group and set
>> some short term and long term goals would be good.  And we should try
>> and
>> build for this meeting but networking with other groups and possibly
>> leafleting relevant events (only possible when all of number 2 is
>> achieved!)
>> Una will facilitate the next meeting, arrange the location etc and send
>> out reminders.
>>  
>> Action Points:
>>  
>> Una to create a ‘doodle’ and post to the list to find the best time
>> for the next meeting.
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