Hi all,<br><br>re climate camp, the best thing would probably be for you to go to a london meeting where you can ask questions and find out more.<br><br>I'm not a regular at the weekly meeting, but I could find out where and when it is if you'd like.<br>
<br>E<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/6/3 kelly <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kelly@riseup.net">kelly@riseup.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hey all.<br>
<br>
Looks like it was a brilliant meeting - really productive! Sorry i<br>
couldn't be there - i had an emergency thing with a woman i'm working with<br>
who was fleeing to a refuge.<br>
<br>
I completely agree with what people were saying about climate camp. I can<br>
find out details on location etc for next meeting if someone else doesn't<br>
manage to.<br>
<br>
Finally, I'm up for arranging child care for the next meeting.<br>
<br>
See you all soon x<br>
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> Hi all,<br>
> attached and below are the minutes of Mondays meeting.<br>
> The next meeting is June 22nd at 7 in the playground at London Fields. We<br>
> thought that we should change the time of this meeting just to facilitate<br>
> the attendance of people who may work or be busy during the day. It is not<br>
> intended to be a permanent change of time.<br>
> una<br>
><br>
> Notes from radical childcare meeting, Monday 1 June, 11:30 at London<br>
> Fields.<br>
><br>
> It was a small meeting but productive meeting, with 4 adults and 2<br>
> children in attendance.<br>
><br>
> Actions from previous meeting<br>
> Legal info – Jon found out lots about legalities of providing childcare.<br>
> Have pasted the documant he made below. But basically we could provide<br>
> childcare for up to 2 hours for children who’s parents are not on-site or<br>
> nearby, and for up to 4 hours if childs parent/gaurdian are on-site or<br>
> nearby.<br>
> Home Education Groups - Gemma fed back about home education groups in<br>
> Hackney, Harringey area. Could be worth linking up with them. Info is<br>
> pasted below.<br>
> Feminist Fightback – Anna had fed back details of our last meeting to<br>
> Feminist Fightback, they are keen on getting involved with the group. Also<br>
> keen on sorting toy box for meetings etc.<br>
><br>
> Agenda Points<br>
> Safer Spaces<br>
> Toy / resource bank<br>
> CAIC conference 20th June<br>
> Climate Camp<br>
> Any other business<br>
><br>
><br>
> Safer Spaces Policy<br>
> We spoke about maybe drawing up a safer spaces policy for the group to<br>
> ensure that the group works in a safe and comfortable way.<br>
><br>
> Toy / resource bank<br>
> We would like to be able to get together a box of toys, resources etc for<br>
> this group and other groups to use. A good location to store them would be<br>
> LARC. Lots of people meet there, and as far as we can tell there is<br>
> nothing available for children. There could be 2 boxes, 1 with general<br>
> toys, etc that could be taken out whenever children are there and another<br>
> for use with particular activities ie with paints, materials etc, which<br>
> could be used at LARC or taken to events. Basically build up resources for<br>
> people to use when putting on kid-friendly events, creches etc. Jon will<br>
> try to get to LARC meeting to propose this, or contact someone from LARC<br>
> collective to see if they would be up for this. London Anarchafeminist<br>
> Kolektiv have a box of toys, Una will see if they could be added to this<br>
> resource.<br>
><br>
> CAIC Conference (Campaign Against Immigration Controls) , 20th June.<br>
> Jon will be running a creche/kidspace for this event. If anyone would like<br>
> to help out, please contact him off-list.<br>
> This led us to talk about catering for children of different ages. Older<br>
> children are not going to want to do the same sort of things as the under<br>
> fives. The conference is about immigration. It would be good to maybe do<br>
> activities around this topic. Perhaps having a child talking about their<br>
> experiences of being a migrant to this country would be good.<br>
><br>
> Climate Camp<br>
> Emily sent an email to the list saying that no-one as yet has taken on<br>
> organising the kidspce for this years climate camp. We talked about this<br>
> at length and although we would be up for doing it, some of the concerns<br>
> raised were – Climate Camp this year is back in the City of London (we<br>
> think – Can someone please confirm this?). After what happened on April<br>
> 1sts camp in the city, we would be concerned about police violence,<br>
> childrens safety etc. We would not like to be responsible for organising a<br>
> creche at a city camp, but a kidspace with activities etc for children and<br>
> adults would be cool. But if climate camp will be somewhere else (like<br>
> Kingsnorth for example) then its a whole different ball-game, cooperative<br>
> childcare / creche etc would be possible and easily acheivable. We need to<br>
> check what the plans for climate camp are, where it will be etc, what<br>
> climate camp means by kidspace etc and then see how we feel about it –<br>
> Anna will check this, or can Emily clarify?<br>
><br>
> Any other business<br>
><br>
> We also spoke about some specific things that we might be interested in<br>
> organising around, such as the extreme genderisation of kids toys (pink<br>
> blue syndrome etc) and the Welfare Reform Bill. Will speak further at next<br>
> meeting about this.<br>
><br>
> We also thought it might be a good idea to get a list of people together<br>
> who are willing to sometimes do childcare, and also a list of people,<br>
> organisations who would be willing to do workshops, crafts, kids politics,<br>
> etc.<br>
><br>
> I think that was all. If I’ve missed anything out, please feel free to<br>
> correct, ammend etc.<br>
><br>
> Next meeting will be Monday 22nd june at 7pm in the playground in London<br>
> Fields. We decided to change the time of the next meeting so that people<br>
> who work during the day can attend. Hope thats ok. It is not meant to be a<br>
> permanent change, but just an attempt to include different people. If this<br>
> time is problematic for people please let the list know and we can discuss<br>
> changing it.<br>
><br>
> Jons Document on legalities of providing childcare<br>
><br>
> Legal stuff on Childcare in the UK<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Normally if you are providing childcare to under 5s you must register as<br>
> an “early years childcare provider” which means you must be Ofsted<br>
> inspected and meet tons of legal obligations as set out in the “Early<br>
> Years Foundations Stage” material. However, under certain circumstances<br>
> “mobile crèches” do not have to register and (shockingly) there are no<br>
> specific legal guidelines for this type of childcare! Obviously other<br>
> laws still apply (such as health and safety regulations) but nothing that<br>
> is specific to providing childcare. All the professionals I spoke to<br>
> (several at the Department for Children, Schools and Families and another<br>
> who works for Tower Hamlets council) strongly urged following best<br>
> practice as set out in the Early Years Foundation Stage literature when<br>
> providing this type of childcare. This includes lots of very sensible<br>
> things like adult to child ratios, health and safety, getting CRB checks<br>
> done and providing different types of play opportunities for children etc.<br>
> but it is not legally binding on “mobile crèches” when they qualify for an<br>
> exemption.<br>
><br>
> The following is taken from the snappily titled Ofsted publication “Guide<br>
> to registration on the Early Years Register: childcare provider on<br>
> domestic or non-domestic premises”:<br>
><br>
><br>
> You are exempt from registration if you:<br>
> &#61550; care for individual children for two hours or less each day even<br>
> if your provision is open for longer than this period; an example is a<br>
> crèche attached to an adult learning centre where the crèche may be open<br>
> all day but parents leave children for less than two hours while they take<br>
> part in an adult learning session.<br>
> &#61550; intend to offer care for the early years age group on particular<br>
> premises for 14 days or less in any period of 12 months, but you must<br>
> notify us in writing at least 14 days before you start providing care on<br>
> those premises; examples include short-term crèches to support a<br>
> conference, or a holiday playscheme running for two weeks in school<br>
> holidays.<br>
> &#61550; care for individual children for four hours or less each day and<br>
> the care is for the convenience of parents who intend to remain on the<br>
> premises where the provision occurs or within its immediate locality. In<br>
> this type of provision there is no long-term commitment to provide care<br>
> for children. Examples include a shoppers’ crèche or a crèche attached to<br>
> a sports centre or an exhibition where children do not attend every day.<br>
> &#61550; provide an open access scheme for children; an open access scheme<br>
> allows children to leave the provision unaccompanied. Open access schemes<br>
> may not provide care for children in the early years age group.<br>
> &#61550; provide education under a home education arrangement for a child<br>
> who is of compulsory school age and the care you give is incidental to the<br>
> education you provide. A home education arrangement is where a child of<br>
> compulsory school age receives full-time education not in a school, and is<br>
> partly or wholly educated by someone who is not the<br>
> child’s parent.<br>
> &#61550; provide care for children in a hotel or guest house between 6pm<br>
> and 2am and you care for the children of no more than two clients at the<br>
> same time (baby sitting arrangements).<br>
> &#61550; provide care for children of two sets of parents wholly or mainly<br>
> in either or both of the sets of parents’ homes. Registration as a<br>
> childminder is required if you look after the children of three sets of<br>
> parents in any or all of the parents’ homes.<br>
> &#61550; provide no more than two types of activity from the following<br>
> list:<br>
> - school study support or homework support<br>
> - sport<br>
> - performing arts<br>
> - arts and crafts<br>
> - religious, cultural or language study.<br>
> This exemption only applies if you care for children who are aged three<br>
> and over; and children aged under five do not attend for more than four<br>
> hours in any one day. Any care provided is incidental to the activity (it<br>
> is not the main focus of your provision).<br>
><br>
><br>
> (source:<br>
> <a href="http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/Ofsted-home/Forms-and-guidance/Browse-all-by/Other/General/Guide-to-registration-on-the-Early-Years-Register-childcare-provider-on-domestic-or-non-domestic-premises" target="_blank">http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/Ofsted-home/Forms-and-guidance/Browse-all-by/Other/General/Guide-to-registration-on-the-Early-Years-Register-childcare-provider-on-domestic-or-non-domestic-premises</a>)<br>
><br>
><br>
> The most important parts of this list are the first 3 which seem to say we<br>
> can run a crèche for up to 2 hours without parents on site, up to 4 hours<br>
> with them on site (or very close by) or for longer (but no more than 14<br>
> days a year) if we notify Ofsted first. Under all these circumstances we<br>
> wouldn’t have to go through the laborious process of registering with<br>
> Ofsted and making sure we meet lots of legal criteria.<br>
><br>
> The only other stipulation is that no one who is either on the Childcare<br>
> Disqualifications Register or who lives with someone on the register can<br>
> work with kids. Looking at the legal mumbo-jumbo it seems like you’d know<br>
> about it if you were on the list as the offences are all to do with<br>
> seriously harming or having sexual relations with children.<br>
><br>
> The Childcare (Disqualification) Regulations 2007 and The Childcare<br>
> (Disqualification) (Amendment) Regulations 2008 can be found at:<br>
> <a href="http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2007/uksi_20070723_en_1" target="_blank">www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2007/uksi_20070723_en_1</a> and<br>
> <a href="http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2008/pdf/uksi_20081740_en_1" target="_blank">www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2008/pdf/uksi_20081740_en_1</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> For more info:<br>
> Department for Children, Schools and Families (DCSF) – website was crap.<br>
> Phone no. is 0870 000 2288 or 01928 794446 9am to 5pm.<br>
> Or speak direct to Patrick at the DCSF (who was actually helpful!) on<br>
> 02077838149<br>
> <a href="http://www.ofsted.gov.uk" target="_blank">www.ofsted.gov.uk</a><br>
><br>
> Gemmas email re Home Ed<br>
><br>
> Hey,<br>
><br>
> I have researched a little bit on Home Education groups in Hackney, as<br>
> this would be a useful resource/possibilities of linking up/mutual<br>
> interest etcetc.<br>
><br>
> One main nationwide resource is <a href="http://www.education-otherwise.org" target="_blank">www.education-otherwise.org</a> which is a<br>
> charity to support home educators and has lots of legal info/helpline.<br>
><br>
> Adventures With Education (AWE) is a voluntary association in Hackney:<br>
> <a href="http://www.awe.gn.apc.org" target="_blank">www.awe.gn.apc.org</a> (email: <a href="mailto:adventureswitheducation@gmail.com">adventureswitheducation@gmail.com</a> they meet<br>
> every tuesday during term time 11-3 in shoreditch adventure playground,<br>
> London Mintern Street, N1 (Old St/Liverpool St tubes). Their meeting place<br>
> (shoreditch adventure playground) sounds like it has great facilities, and<br>
> so might be a possibility for us to meet there also, obviously not on<br>
> tuesdays, but maybe every third monday as we are now etc).<br>
><br>
> Haringey Home Educaiton Club (HHEC) <a href="http://www.hhec.org.uk" target="_blank">www.hhec.org.uk</a> (email:<br>
> <a href="mailto:contact@hhec.org.uk">contact@hhec.org.uk</a>) they meet alternate wednesdays 12-4 but dont have a<br>
> set venue, just moves around week to week. website lists things of<br>
> interest in the area, eg. the Kids Collective Community Film Group which<br>
> meets 10.30am saturdays (i think this is what kelly was refering to in the<br>
> last meeting?)<br>
><br>
> I havent' contacted them both yet, will put it to others on monday and can<br>
> contact them on monday after meeting if we want to.<br>
><br>
> I have contacted Education Otherwise regarding us doing a childcare<br>
> collective in the area and if they know of any other local home ed/similar<br>
> groups. I have also asked them for more information/opinions on how the<br>
> governments push of the welfare reform bill will affect home educating<br>
> parents (especially single parents recieving benefits that want to home<br>
> educate), and other issues relating to our autonomy of our children's<br>
> education.<br>
><br>
> This was E.O's reply to the latter:<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.freedomforchildrentogrow.org/welfarereform.htm" target="_blank">http://www.freedomforchildrentogrow.org/welfarereform.htm</a><br>
><br>
> I'm also lobbying the Social Security Advisory Committee, the Department<br>
> of Work and<br>
> Pensions and talking to MPs and sympathetic peer in House of Lords. Could<br>
> still be<br>
> bad outcome though.<br>
><br>
> Fiona<br>
> Chair EO Government Policy Group<br>
> home educating lone parent on JSA with home educated 16 year old<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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