[SSC] 22.09.2012 Meeting. The chair offers a text aboutthinking about decision making, and, meetings

Alan Gurbutt agurbutt at socialsciencecentre.org.uk
Sun Sep 30 11:24:29 UTC 2012


Hi Sandie / everyone,
Did you receive the text, if so, what do you think? May I suggest that there should be opportunities for e-discussion considering the distance some members have to travel. It's doubtful everyone can attend Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday next week. To include everyone, decision making about meetings should involve group consensus, either face-to-face or electronically. This doesn't appear to be happening.
Best wishes,
Alan

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On 30 Sep 2012, at 09:55, "Sandie Stratford" <sandiestrat at phonecoop.coop> wrote:

> Hi all
>  
> David, the text Alan refers to didn't seem to have reached my inbox.  Can you re-send, please?
>  
> Sandie
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> From: Alan Gurbutt
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> Subject: Re: [SSC] 22.09.2012 Meeting. The chair offers a text aboutthinking about decision making.
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> The paper on eroding the boundaries of cognition is very interesting. Can we discuss in more detail at some point?
> 
> Embodied cognition through behaviour, body and environmental synergies are posteriori. It has been noted since the 40s that environments play the greatest role for learning and that all people are capable of living a good life subject to appropriate stimulation. I reject the notion completely that children have innate ‘g’. I would like to explore cognition away from localisation, externally, within groups, as opposed to within a closed system.
> 
> It is noted in the article that motor systems are linked to language. This chimes with contemporary neuroscience in which the whole brain is involved with language production and understanding (I will dig out references if we are to explore in more detail). This knowledge extends to the ‘100’ languages of learning Michael Fielding talks about which are used in the Italian school, Reggio Emilia. 
> 
> I would challenge the notion that social interaction is not proscribed a priori through exploration, beyond science that is. As a Christian, I often try to think beyond knowledge. In other words, I try to think about the concept of consciousness, to ask the question: what is language? What is language at its lowest possible mathematical level? We can’t as yet answer this question. I think for me, at this moment in time, it’s about breaking down human interaction into its constituent parts, how we interact with each other. The latter, like the brain, is malleable and, for some, spiritual.
> 
> There are more connections in the human brain than there are stars in the universe. According to Carl Sagan (1977), problems and solutions for humanity lie within the extra-evolution of the human brain. Breaking down human interaction into constituent parts could help to reduce the effects of hierarchical systems. Just an idea!  
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Alan   
> 
>  
> 
> From: David McAleavey <davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com>
> Date: 22 September 2012 21:10:28 BST
> To: ssc <ssc at lists.aktivix.org>
> Subject: [SSC] 22.09.2012 Meeting. The chair offers a text about thinking about decision making.
> 
> Dear all,
>  
> Thanks again to all of you who contributed at today's meeting.
>  
> I would like to share a text with you (especially section 3: Breaking down boundaries between animals).
>  
> I hope it's relevance will be obvious to those of you who attended today... if it isn't ( and I know that I have an uncommonly divergent cognitive style - what seems 'obvious' to me may well be obscure/bizarre to others), apologies, and let's talk about it over a coffee at Angel on Tuesday 2 October.
>  
> Respectfully yours,
>  
> David
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