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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lovely stuff, Mike. A very nicely articulated mix of the personal and political.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In solidarity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Richard.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ssc-bounces@lists.aktivix.org [mailto:ssc-bounces@lists.aktivix.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Neary<br><b>Sent:</b> 30 September 2011 05:13<br><b>To:</b> ldavis@oceanfree.net; psomerville@lincoln.ac.uk; john.andrews57@ntlworld.com<br><b>Cc:</b> ssc@lists.aktivix.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [SSC] Maps and politics of 'radical education projects'<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I have attached the latest draft of my piece for Open Democracy.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>They asked me to write this in a Q and A format, and to give it more 'colour'.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>The piece is written from the perspective of my involvement with the Centre, rather than an official statement of the Centre's aims and purposes. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>> From: ldavis@oceanfree.net<br>> To: psomerville@lincoln.ac.uk; john.andrews57@ntlworld.com<br>> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:31:38 +0100<br>> CC: ssc@lists.aktivix.org<br>> Subject: Re: [SSC] Maps and politics of 'radical education projects'<br>> <br>> I agree with the points made by Joss in his most recent email.<br>> <br>> Peter, perhaps you might consider continuing your discussion about the <br>> politics of the Conservative Party offline so that list postings focus on <br>> the many outstanding practical tasks entailed in constructing a sustainable <br>> Social Science Centre?<br>> <br>> Speaking of which, I would just like to applaud the path-breaking work that <br>> everybody has done thus far on this project. It truly is inspiring.<br>> <br>> Laurence<br>> <br>> <br>> -----Original Message----- <br>> From: Peter Somerville<br>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:54 AM<br>> To: john andrews<br>> Cc: ssc@lists.aktivix.org<br>> Subject: Re: [SSC] Maps and politics of 'radical education projects'<br>> <br>> Glad to hear you agree, john. So do you now accept that the work of<br>> different members of our group can be contradictory, which in your<br>> previous email you appeared to reject?<br>> <br>> There is a difference between a 'political posture' (actually an ethical<br>> principle) in favour of mutual respect and democratic decision-making,<br>> which I advanced in my previous email, and a political posture such as<br>> 'anarchism' or 'radicalism' or 'revolutionary socialism'.<br>> <br>> And by the way, there are sections within the Conservative Party who are<br>> anarchist in the sense that they believe that the state should move<br>> entirely out of the way and leave everything to be sorted out by the<br>> anarchy of the market. Anarchists are not necessarily gangsters but some<br>> of them are (and were - e.g. Bakunin). I would also distinguish between<br>> the anarchists outside of government and those (gangsters, perhaps?)<br>> within government whose project is obviously very different - we would<br>> probably agree about the latter.<br>> <br>> Pete<br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: john andrews [mailto:john.andrews57@ntlworld.com]<br>> Sent: 28 September 2011 10:21<br>> To: Peter Somerville<br>> Subject: Re: [SSC] Maps and politics of 'radical education projects'<br>> <br>> I absolutely agree that different opinions should not prevent people<br>> working together - providing they each respect the other's right to<br>> hold, and express, a different opinion - but such freedom is rare in<br>> practice and supporting it is, it must be said, a political posture.<br>> <br>> john<br>> <br>> <br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From: "Peter Somerville" <psomerville@lincoln.ac.uk><br>> To: "john andrews" <john.andrews57@ntlworld.com><br>> Cc: <ssc@lists.aktivix.org><br>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 9:31 AM<br>> Subject: RE: [SSC] Maps and politics of 'radical education projects'<br>> <br>> <br>> Goodness, I couldn't disagree more (except for the point about Blair).<br>> And yet, is that a reason why John and I can't work within the same<br>> group? I think not.<br>> <br>> Pete<br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: john andrews [mailto:john.andrews57@ntlworld.com]<br>> Sent: 28 September 2011 07:10<br>> To: Peter Somerville<br>> Subject: Re: [SSC] Maps and politics of 'radical education projects'<br>> <br>> Surely the work done by a group of people must be informed by a commonly<br>> held belief? Otherwise the work done by some of the group will<br>> inevitably contradict and oppose the work of others in the same group.<br>> It isn't possible for LSSC to NOT have a political posture of some sort:<br>> education is a political issue. Peter Sommerville is wrong to suggest<br>> that 'the market', or anything else associated with existing government<br>> has anything to do with anarchism; and he's equally wrong to exclude<br>> 'new' labour from his criticism - much of today's problems were created<br>> by Blair. Existing government is about gangsterism, not anarchism, and<br>> has far more in common with Al Capone than Kropotkin, Goldman or<br>> Chomsky. Tories, 'new' labour...<br>> they're all the same. I'm not sure what Peter is 'interested in doing',<br>> but I would be very surprised if it's entirely apolitical, and if it is,<br>> it's probably not of very much help.<br>> <br>> John<br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From: "Peter Somerville" <psomerville@lincoln.ac.uk><br>> To: "Amsler, Sarah" <S.S.AMSLER@aston.ac.uk><br>> Cc: <ssc@lists.aktivix.org><br>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:15 PM<br>> Subject: Re: [SSC] Maps and politics of 'radical education projects'<br>> <br>> <br>> >I sympathise with Andrew Taggart but I don't think the SSC is about<br>> > political posturing - at least, that's not what I'm interested in<br>> doing.<br>> > The 'real' anarchists these days are the Tories, with their 'Big<br>> > Society' and their unshakeable belief in the anarchy of the market.<br>> But<br>> > do we really need to have an agreed 'position' with respect to the<br>> state<br>> > and the market? I hope not. Do we even need to have a set of 'common<br>> > values', which we all sign up to? I think not, except in the broadest<br>> > possible terms, e.g. mutual respect and democratic decision-making. If<br>> > we must be judged at all (which I doubt) it should be by what we do<br>> > rather than by what we believe in.<br>> ><br>> > Pete<br>> ><br>> > -----Original Message-----<br>> > From: ssc-bounces@lists.aktivix.org<br>> > [mailto:ssc-bounces@lists.aktivix.org] On Behalf Of Amsler, Sarah<br>> > Sent: 25 September 2011 22:59<br>> > To: ssc@lists.aktivix.org<br>> > Subject: [SSC] Maps and politics of 'radical education projects'<br>> ><br>> > Dear all,<br>> ><br>> > I came across the two texts below and would be interested in<br>> discussing<br>> > them with anyone also interested. I think they offer a way into some<br>> > pressing questions about major concepts (freeness and freedom,<br>> > radicalism, anarchistic politics, etc.) that are being both<br>> materialised<br>> > in practice and called into question. It might be an interesting<br>> > exercise, for example, to try to formulate responses to some of the<br>> > (perhaps rhetorically framed) questions in the second.<br>> ><br>> > Sociological Imagination's working list of 'radical education<br>> projects'<br>> > in the UK:<br>> > http://sociologicalimagination.org/a-work-in-progress<br>> ><br>> > Andrew Taggart's critical questioning of the above forms, as<br>> > particularly read:<br>> ><br>> http://andrewjtaggart.com/2011/09/19/on-the-other-side-of-radical-educat<br>> ><br>> ion-lies-wisdom-an-exhortation-or-on-the-question-whether-really-free-is<br>> > -really-good/<br>> ><br>> > After spending a second weekend working with the people of the Free<br>> > University of Liverpool (to whom I will send a copy of this message),<br>> I<br>> > am clearer that there is certainly a moment of emergence with these<br>> > different projects, which have been developing for a little (or long)<br>> > while, all coming into some serious material form but often<br>> autonomously<br>> > from each other. I'd like to think about the place of this in history,<br>> > the context of this historical moment and the forms of politics and<br>> > pedagogies being developed -- and whether or not they really are all<br>> > characterised by a 'shared ethos of anarchism' (an argument which I do<br>> > not entirely agree with) it seems like a wider conversation to have on<br>> > the radar. I have had some thoughts about at some point in the<br>> > reasonably near future bringing people involved in these different<br>> > projects/spaces together to share experiences and imaginaries?<br>> ><br>> > Best,<br>> > Sarah<br>> ><br>> > Dr Sarah S Amsler<br>> > Lecturer in Sociology<br>> > Aston University<br>> > Birmingham, B4 7ET, UK<br>> > +44 (0) 121 204 3072<br>> > s.s.amsler@aston.ac.uk<br>> ><br>> > Campaign for the Public University: http://publicuniversity.org.uk<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > SSC mailing list<br>> > SSC@lists.aktivix.org<br>> > https://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/ssc<br>> ><br>> > The University of Lincoln - a top performer in student satisfaction,<br>> > enjoying an unrivalled ascent through the University league tables,<br>> set in<br>> > a dynamic, research rich and vibrant campus in the heart of a great<br>> > historic student-friendly city.<br>> ><br>> > The information in this e-mail and any attachments may be<br>> confidential. 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