[Ssf] Welfare meeting

spodulike at freeuk.com spodulike at freeuk.com
Wed Dec 8 11:11:14 GMT 2004


> Hia,
> 
> One suggestion would be that we ask IMPACT if they think this is 
> something they might want to be involved with or take on.

It is a possibility, I am going to get in touch with the disabled forum 
(who are a little dormant at the moment) and see if they would be 
interested in taking it on or joining forces or summat.

>snipped>
> It's a difficult one, given that SSF is overtly political.

Is it? Or is it an open space working towards another, fairer world, 
with no political axe to grind? However it wasn't the SSF that was the 
problem, given that these people didn't know about it anyway

>Or was politics not the problem?  Was it more scary political types 
being the problem?

That was the problem, it just put people off, and cos we all know each 
other it just looked like some kind of group forging ahead with x, y 
and z.

We'll see how it goes anyways, cheers,

Jason


>I know their capacity isn't great at the moment - but they're the best 
people at connecting real-life stories all the way through to getting 
things done.  (We're not so good! But then, we don't have full-time 
paid staff 
> either.)
> 
> Dan

> 
> 
> Jase wrote:
> 
> >In doing the ring round to people there were a couple of comments 
about the
> >political nature of the end of the meeting, because of this a couple 
of people
> >will not be taking further part. It was felt that it had been taken 
over by
> >those with an agenda.
> >
> >I understand that people feel they want to do something and feel 
that they
> >know how to do it, however it was a decision for all the people in 
that room.
> >It is sad but we may have lost a really good opportunity to make a 
broad based
> >campaign, I hope that is not the case and that people will remain 
involved,
> >however it is important they feel EMPOWERED and that they have a say.
This
> >will not happen if people start talking about how they will get the 
unions
> >involved (Ian) or sectarian this (Mozaz) or SWP that (Dave) without 
chatting
> >it through with people whose most political excursion has been the 
occasional
> >question time.
> >
> >O.k., I've critisised and have been negative, nothing is going to be 
perfect,
> >and maybe the social forum does have a future BUT without real 
efforts to be
> >inclusive and sensitive it may remain forevermore in a small
> >political/politico circle.
> >
> >Jason



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