[Ssf] swp:local social forums have failed

noone noone machinevman at hotmail.com
Tue Dec 14 21:35:29 GMT 2004


"Such attempts, portrayed
as a programmatic shift to the left (because social
forums raise issues of economic exploitation as well
as war), would in practice be a move to the right
because they undermine the attempt to break the Blair
government over the issue on which it is most
vulnerable.(my emphasis)'"

thinking about it, i can see the funny side...
It infers that attacking the labour government on poverty, education, 
health, welfare, crime, social policy, international development, 
regeneration etc... etc... would lead to the current labour government and 
tony blair being kept in power.  On the other hand if we ignore these issues 
which effect the vast majority of traditional labour voters and concentrate 
on one issue then tony blair is more likely be to removed!

I would of thought that by ignoring these issues that are very important to 
alot of people they are putting themselves in a weakened situation.  Or 
maybe they think that people only have one thought on their mind when they 
think about who to vote for.

for now
cuthbert



>From: dave thompson <mpower0 at yahoo.com>
>To: Ssf at lists.aktivix.org
>Subject: [Ssf] swp:local social forums have failed Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 
>11:54:34 -0800 (PST)
>
>Hello, There is a busy new discussion on urban75 (you
>have to register to view)but it's about the swp
>attacking social forums in their post conference
>bulletin and claiming they have failed in the uk. i
>know we shouldnt worry/care about what they say, but
>it does show they were/are rattled.They also seem to
>have noticed that STW has been reduced to a rump of
>party members and their brand, respect is not doing
>much better. imo, the only group that is growing in
>the squating/radioacl anti-capitalist networks, which
>generally do not focus on bread and butterissues, just
>thesexy ones, hence one reason for the low turn outs
>for our meetings......
>
>dt
>
>'Britain is an old imperialist country. Britain's
>current Prime Minister has turned it into the second
>most important imperialist country by virtue of his
>strategic support for US imperialism's renewed global
>ambition.
>For these reasons, and because of the presence of
>revolutionary socialists in the leadership of the Stop
>the War Coalition, the anti-war movement has coem to
>occupy the radical space occupied in France by ATTAC
>or in Italy by the social forums and, later, the
>anti-war movement.
>
>This is why attempts by the sectarian left to supplant
>the Stop the War Coalition by social forums have
>failed and deserve to fail. Such attempts, portrayed
>as a programmatic shift to the left (because social
>forums raise issues of economic exploitation as well
>as war), would in practice be a move to the right
>because they undermine the attempt to break the Blair
>government over the issue on which it is most
>vulnerable.(my emphasis)'
>
>http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=97899
>
>
>bulletin here
>http://www.swp.org.uk/RESOURCE/Conference2004.pdf
>
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