[Ssf] Left wing?

[noone noone]

"nor do I believe that America
>is secretly a left-wing country that is simply awaiting the clarion call. 
>That was a Ralph Nader and Howard Dean fantasy, and there’s no evidence for 
>it. That’s why I don’t think the lesson to learn from Kerry’s defeat is 
>that he should have been more left-wing."


  I think that the point is that kerry did not make enough of an effort in 
apealing to the poorest people in the US, afterall the poorest state in the 
union is mississippi and it ended up voting republican.  The other issue is 
that the democrats chose a candidate that has nothing in common with the 
people he is trying to represent.  Kerry is one of the most privileged 
people in the US and by choosing this posh north easterner as their 
candidate i don't see how they can hope to apeal to the working class 
catholics in ohio or the people who live in mississippi who are some of the 
poorest people in the united states.
  By choosing this uncharismatic run-of-the-mill "centrist" candidate to run 
for president and by him failing this will lead to the democrats surendering 
more ground and becoming more "centrist" (i.e. more like the republicans).  
The next candidate may well end up being a mormon from nevada who may as 
well be a republican.  Lets not forget that the democrat "centrists" have 
never truly succeeded because the democrats didnt gain control of congress 
in 1992, 1996, 2000 or 2004.

for now
cuthbert

>From: Dan <dan at aktivix.org>
>To: Ssf at lists.aktivix.org
>Subject: [Ssf] Left wing?
>Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 17:02:47 +0000
>
>From Open Democracy.org, about the US election - thought it was quite apt 
>for the social forum movement too!
>
>http://www.opendemocracy.net/debates/article-3-77-2289.jsp
>
>"The ringing calls to opposition on the part of the readers of small 
>left-wing magazines do not impress me, nor do I believe that America is 
>secretly a left-wing country that is simply awaiting the clarion call. That 
>was a Ralph Nader and Howard Dean fantasy, and there’s no evidence for it. 
>That’s why I don’t think the lesson to learn from Kerry’s defeat is that he 
>should have been more left-wing.
>
>"I agree with Colin Greer about being oppositional, but it has to be 
>oppositional in a way that’s persuasive to Americans. My belief is that 
>getting out of the sealed rooms and gated communities of the left and doing 
>politics with people who are unlike you is to participate in the essence of 
>politics."
>
>Dan
>
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