[ssf] RE: Moz stuff

[noone noone]

  Having not checked my emails since the weekend i read the emails and find 
that instead of reading emails about all this great stuff that we are doing 
very soon and all this progress we are making i find that the ssf list has 
been yet again taken over by a mozaz centred debate.  I find that mozaz has 
decided to compare dan to the nazis.  (I reccomend that mozaz read the book 
by nick cohen called "pretty straight guys" it has a chapter all about the 
nazis and the holocaust.)

  This group cannot actually do anything while we are stuck in this 
situation.  I for one dont want to have a big debate about the state of 
mozaz, maybe an elist should be set up so that those that do want to have 
this debate can.  The thing that wories me is that for all we know people 
are finding out about the ssf, going on the werbsite, going on the archives 
of the elist and finding that there is this guy called mozaz who seems to 
dominate whatever is going on.  They are probably thinking 'I don't have 
time for this' and to be fair i am starting to think exactly the same thing.

There is no ill feeling on my part, i am only thinking of how we can 
practically move on.

for now
cuthbert




>From: "zerosevenfour two" <zerosevenfourtwo at hotmail.co.uk>
>To: dan at aktivix.org, ssf at lists.aktivix.org, worldwarfree at riseup.net
>Subject: [ssf] RE: Moz stuff
>Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:50:23 +0000
>
>hello people:
>
>Dan wrote:
>
>1. I'm really sorry Mozaz stuff is taking up so much space on this list.
>
>Dan you wrote comments over the weekend about having 0742 aka mozaz banned 
>from this list this is where this current debate presipitated itself: It 
>was nothing mozaz aka 0742 said that persipitated this current debate:
>
>Dan wrote:
>2. Mozaz (via whoever) - we agreed at a meeting to moderate you.
>Nothing you say in the e-mail below is true.  Could you please stop
>singling me out, it's starting to become a bit scary and unpleasant.
>
>It was neither or has it been for this to become scary and unpleasant and 
>the comments i wrote was done with humour if this has become scary and 
>unpleasant i'll say again that was not the intent:
>
>Dan i ain't singling you out it was you who presipitated myself being 
>Modrated on the sf list at the meeting: Following my post and again i do 
>not see the wrong that has been done here talking about issues that have 
>affected myself and why i become politcal: Neither do i see a wrong in 
>talking about such issues as i raised:
>
>3. I only said I thought (because of style) that 0742 was you - this is
>a method you have used before.  I also said I'd be happy to be proved
>wrong - for 0742 to call me on 07968 997861.  (Said that three times
>now.)  Besides which, 0742 can't be moderated until we agree it at a
>meeting, and I don't think everyone agrees with me.
>
>You are right Mozaz is aka 0742:
>
>4. Whoever 0742 is, they've forwarded Mozaz's e-mail below to this list.
>0742: forwarding offensive posts is not a good idea.  (Mozaz: comparing
>being moderated to Nazi extermination of Jews is a bit much!)
>
>No that was the point your talk of banning modrateing people i feel leads 
>to fascism and the very present intolerance you seem to hold towards myself 
>because of i feel my health issues: You know i oppose fascism in whatever 
>form it takes be it your intolerance etc:
>
>
>5. Mozaz - you are moderated on the IMC list, and you accept that.  Do
>you reckon you could come round to accepting this too?
>
>I was modrated on the imc list for a whole lot of reasons and i accept my 
>actions persipitated that moderation: But it also has alot to do with 
>history, reputation and their intolarance towords me: As said i have no 
>real ground or disagreement with that moderation due to my actions:
>
>Now i know being duplicitous in the manner i have been will see me a being 
>banned or moderated as 0742 while i might not accept this i'll deal with 
>it:
>
>Sorry if this crass or is that serious debate has taken up time on this 
>list but it was Dan talking of banning 0742 that did presipitate this 
>debate:
>
>Mozaz aka 0742:
>
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