[ssf] !7th Feb meet report

[Dan]

Hia!

Here's my initial thoughts, along with a link to the WIKI page where 
I've put the G8 notes -

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/sheffield/2005/02/305597.html

http://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/SheffieldG7

On the announcements list - we should pass a new one by this list, then 
get it sent out.

Amp - wanna meet to get this done, or are you happy to draft one for the 
list, for the collective's approval?

Good work, everyone!  The top nutters are coming to Sheffield in June: 
the ones who use this kind of logic:

"Sovereignty entails obligations.  One is not to massacre your own 
people. Another is not to support terrorism in any way. If a government 
fails to meet these obligations, then it forfeits some of the normal 
advantages of sovereignty, including the right to be left alone inside 
your own territory. Other governments, including the US, gain the right 
to intervene. In the case of terrorism this can even lead to a right of 
preventive, or peremptory, self-defence."

(And, of course, if we broaden our definition of terrorism, we get to 
impose our imperialism, which is defined thus  - )

"What is needed then is a new kind of imperialism, one acceptable to a 
world of human rights and cosmopolitan values. We can already discern 
its outline: an imperialism which, like all imperialism, aims to bring 
order and organisation but which rests today on the voluntary principle." )

[New Labour's Robert Cooper - Tony Blair's 'policy guru' and senior 
diplomat.]

(i.e. 'yes! yes! colonise us! We're poor and we're stupid and we need 
the first world to tell us what to do, coz you're so clever and brave 
and true and free!')

I'm curious about that one: "Sovereignty entails obligations.  One is 
not to massacre your own people."

That's from Richard Haass - was Powell's director of policy in 2002.  
What about taking all the money from most of your poor people to 
subsidise the rich and pay for a war, and then get all those poor people 
to get drafted?  Yeah, I'm sure that's fine.

How - no, really, *how*, do these f*ckers get away with this?  I concur 
once again with CM - "Bunch of sticking capitalist twattymuffins. Lets 
blow shit up."

Ah ha!  That should *surely* be enough for both of us to get put under 
house arrest, no?  I'm sure it's more evidence than most others have 
attached to them!

peace - no, really! - peace. Peace, but anger.

Dan
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@mparo wrote:

> Thanks to you, Alice, and particularly to the ones that did the washing
> up after the meeting and all the cooking.
> Fan-tas-tically cool, yes. What were the opinions, if already known,
> about "too structured or too chaotic"?
>
> R&A
>
>
>
> Alice Collins wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone, Loads of thanks to everyone who came; talked; listened;
>> organised themselves; cooked food; ate it ; shifted tables; washed
>> up; drank beer afterwards. I think the Big Open Meeting was
>> exciting. Love alice.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan" <dan at aktivix.org> To:
>> <Ssf at lists.aktivix.org> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 12:09 PM 
>> Subject: [Ssf] Ideas for 2005...
>>
>>
>>
>>> So, yup, to follow on from the last e-mail, here's some ideas:
>>>
>>> * A social: music, spoken word, film, art, light and people setting
>>> fire to sticks dipped in paraffin and spinning them round their
>>> heads.  Not been enough of this in recent times, for God's sake.
>>>
>>> Issues: Indymedia want to raise money for the server appeal (can we
>>> help?) Peace in the Park - what's happening there? Are they doing a
>>> social fundraiser?
>>>
>>> *SSF2005:  Yeah, maybe... but another thought - have a smaller
>>> event during the G8 Sheffield stuff, but speak to Peace in the Park
>>> people about possibly doing workshops / having a 'leftfield'
>>> tent(s) at peace in the park, in place of in indoor event.
>>>
>>> * Organise a specific event on regeneration.  I keep on going on
>>> about this one and not doing anything about it... but it ties in to
>>> so many things: G8, food sovereignty, local vs global, local
>>> democratic control, giving the powers that be a chance to state
>>> their case, giving us leftie rock-throwers a chance to find out if
>>> they're human...
>>>
>>> * Hungry for Justice and the launch of the Green Food Map - there's
>>> a post-conference plan for a Hungry for Justice website that'll
>>> have the transcripts from the conference (some of the stuff is
>>> FANTASTIC!  I should stick the doc on the WIKI...) along with
>>> resources on how to campaign, why it's such a political issue, how
>>> it ties local to global, etc... SSF could help mediate all this
>>> into a really good event, inviting Healthy Sheffield etc.
>>>
>>> * City Fair Trade status - a chance to get SSF, P&P, WDM, Christian
>>> Aid etc together to talk about this one campaign.
>>>
>>> * Seeds for Change - offering them help to organise here.  Has
>>> someone else already done this?
>>>
>>> * A 'speak truth to power' workshop event: how to get what you want
>>> from the powers that be: what their limitations and uses are.
>>>
>>> * Day trips!  Let's go to Manchester, see Merci, go to the new
>>> Dissent cafe / bookshop / space - which is ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!
>>> They also have an 'urban art exhibition'  - someone's gone around
>>> and got photos of all the fantastic graffiti, most of it beautiful
>>> and anti-corporate, and put it all on the wall.  But you can also
>>> tour around the place with a handy guide!
>>>
>>> Or to Hebden Bridge, or up to Leeds to meet the Leeds ARC folk, go
>>> to Maelstrom, whatever...
>>>
>>> Er... that'll do for now.
>>>
>>> Peace!
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
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>>> do not expect to sit.
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