[Ssf] HARSH READING BUT YOU MUST READ:

[Danny]

I agree Cuthbert.

Mozaz - this list is neither the time nor the place. Please take it off
list.

Danny.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "noone noone" <machinevman at hotmail.com>
To: <ssf at lists.aktivix.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 12:28 AM
Subject: RE: [Ssf] HARSH READING BUT YOU MUST READ:


> I strongly believe that mozaz should not have sent his last email this
> e-list.
>
> Why?
>   Because it has nothing to do with the sheffield social forum and it will
> put people off from participating in the ssf.  I don't see how i can be
> confident in inviting people to join this e-list or go to ssf meetings if
I
> cant guarantee that the ssf isnt just a place for mozaz to vent his anger
> and feelings but is an independent political space which isnt dominated by
> one group or individual and is a place for collective action.
>
>   Picture the scene, someone new to politics in sheffield hears about the
> ssf and is interested so joins the e-list, they then read one of mozaz's
> epics and think 'this is too much for me' or 'this isnt the type of thing
i
> want to be involved in' and walk away.
>
>   For me it goes down to the fact that if i can't be confident in inviting
> other people to take part in this thing called the ssf then why the hell
am
> i involved?
>
> The bottom line is that I dont want to be involved in something that is
used
> as a pressure valve for mozaz's temper.
>
>   This thought, by the way, is not something that has turned up overnight
by
> the one email but it has actually been brought on by boredom for the
> constant stream of emails sent to this e-list that have basicly been about
> mozaz trying to merge the ssf and his own private life.  Don't get me
wrong,
> i like the idea of being nice to people and getting to know people but i
> just dont have the time to spend hours upon hours going to loads of
> political meetings which end up being unproductive precisly because of
> self-centred self-indulgence.
>
>
>   Anyway, i realise i have drifted off the point, back to the email that
has
> precipitated all this.  This life story is shocking and emotional but it
has
> nothing to do with the ssf and therefore shouldnt have been sent to this
> e-list.  It seems to me that the only reason it was sent was to gain some
> sort of sympathy.  I wonder what people would think if i boasted about my
> sex life on this email list, then promptly lectured people about my hard
> luck story.  I admit that my story wouldnt be anywhere near as shocking or
> eventfull as what we have already read but, lets face it, i am only young.
> I admit i have been abit flipant about the email in question and have
> probably taken it too lightly but for me if someone writes their life
story
> and then sends it to an email list (with open archives!) then what do they
> expect.
>
> I apologise for the lack of feeling but it is late and this isnt the first
> time that mozaz has posted his life story on an e-list and i have had
> enough.
>
> Depending on how i feel tommorrow i might not go to the meeting...
>
> from
> cuthbert
>
>
>
> >From: worldwarfree at riseup.net
> >To: ssf at lists.aktivix.org
> >Subject: [Ssf] HARSH READING BUT YOU MUST READ:
> >Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:12:08 -0800
> >
> >I know I know there will be some erm what why etc others will make there
> >comments etc: However this a very changed copy and has taken a long time
of
> >consderation etc: However due to events last weeks i feel the only means
to
> >defend is to act: Me armchair are writeing more and haveing it checked
> >legall
> >wise and no doubt it will be published: Here is the first part of this
work
> >thanks to people for there help in geting this to this stage:
> >
>
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