[ssf] some theology

Chris Malins chrismalins at gmail.com
Tue Jul 26 15:27:10 BST 2005


And noone should ever start a religion based on the writings of Moses. 
He must be older than he looks...

Kathleen Holliday wrote:
> I am compelled to say this and am not meaning to offend. The Christian faith
> and the Islamic faith are two sides of the same coin. Both originated as a
> result of the writings of Moses. If you read Velikovsky there is a very
> sound explanation for the nature of both these major belief systems to be
> violent in that they originated as worship of a local War God. The older
> faiths were and still are ostracised and people were killed who got in the
> way. Sounds familiar.
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>>Hello,
>>one interesting development, let's hope:
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>>>PRESS RELEASE FROM: EKKLESIA DATE: 26 July 2005
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>>>CHRISTIANS EXPLORE LINKS BETWEEN DOCTRINE AND VIOLENCE
>>>
>>>In the wake of public concerns about the relationship between
>>>religion and terror, the UK Christian think-tank Ekklesia is raising
>>>questions about how some church teaching about the death of Jesus
>>>could be linked to the approval of violence.
>>>
>>>In a book called Consuming Passion: Why the Killing of Jesus Really
>>>Matters, due to be launched formally next month, a group of American
>>>and British writers suggest that some popular misunderstandings about
>>>the meaning of the Cross may reinforce conflict, division and
>>>suffering in today's world.
>>>
>>>The book's editors, Ekklesia Co-Directors Simon Barrow and Jonathan
>>>Bartley, say that the collection of diverse essays shows that
>>>theology is not an obscure academic matter or an issue of concern
>>>only to a particular religious in-group.
>>>
>>>"The recent bombings in London have shown that our ideas about the
>>>world and God can literally be a matter of life and death," says
>>>Simon Barrow, who until recently worked for the official ecumenical
>>>body, Churches Together in Britain and Ireland.
>>>
>>>He adds: "The problem of religiously sanctioned violence isn't just a
>>>challenge to Muslims, but to all people of faith - and not least to
>>>Christians, given that the reality of a man put to death is central
>>>to their imagery and doctrine."
>>>
>>>One of the contributors to Consuming Passion is Baptist minister
>>>Steve Chalke, who has been in hot water with some evangelical
>>>Christians recently for questioning the doctrine of 'penal
>>>substitution'.
>>>
>>>In its crude form, this says that God inflicted death and suffering
>>>on an innocent Jesus to 'atone' for the sins of human beings, because
>>>God requires a price paid in blood before being able to forgive.
>>>
>>>(... more to be read at Ekklesia site)
>>
>>:-)
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