[ssf] what is behind a mask?

[R&A]

Following reports from Derby M17, how ridiculous all this sounds!
All this rubber talk about violence to property, g8-sheffield, firm 
decisions... in the view of five steel rings, twelve arrests to cyclists 
from Critical Mass, and *above all* in the view that the city council in 
Sheffield *will* ban all processions during the event, and a protesters' 
*pen* will be built where protesters will be forced to demonstrate or do 
*street theatre* only, for the benefit of children and passers-bye,

for your god's sake, Malins, there is no *room* for controversial 
approach, there is no *violence* but theirs.
Don't you see there is no possible confrontation, at least make room for 
confrontation of ideologies, words, thoughts, or use what tools you have 
available to do what you are intending to do, anyway, and why not?
You are travelling to Edimburgh to meet Chancellor Brown with Make PH, 
that's excellent in your point of view. You have the support of a 
sheffield councellor, at least. Good for you.
Everything else happening in Sheffield will be under control, and you 
know it,
what i don't understand are your concerns.



we shouldn't slag off at each other...


my best wishes


@mp





> Subject:
> Re: [ssf] Agenda and Minutes of last meeting for g8-Sheffield meeting, 
> 16th March
> From:
> Chris Malins <chrismalins at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:28:57 +0000
>
> To:
> SSF <ssf at lists.aktivix.org>
>
>
> Dear Cuthbert,
>
> This statement is not intended as a statement to the media or as a 
> justification to the media. We are sending out a message that we 
> represent local people ready to support actions against the G8 in 
> Sheffield. This clearly delineates those actions which the group is 
> willing to support, and which no member of the group feels 
> uncomfortable with, and conversely those actions which we wil not 
> support. It is not intended as a condemnation of any actions by other 
> individuals or groups, although I admit I have slipped slightly into 
> auto-pilot and that it could be read that way.
>
> Anyone who wishes to support actions including property violence or 
> anything else is free to do so, but the facilities provided by 
> G8-Sheffield will not be made available for these purposes. We judge 
> groups not by their philosophies, but by their specific intentions 
> while in Sheffield.
>
> It is something that members of this group felt was important, and 
> which a firm decision was made to implement. It will be attached to 
> the group's webspace, and to the call to action.
>
> If anyone would like to reword it at all, be my guest.
>
> Chris
>
> noone noone wrote:
>  I dont understand the need for a 'statement of non-violence', i find 
> that all it does is help the media create some sort of division 
> between the different groups of protestors.  Surely it is up the 
> individual to decide how non-violent they are and what constitutes 
> violence and non-violence.  For example for some people damage of 
> property is ok for others it isnt, it doesnt mean that you have to 
> write a statement - which by the way will end up being used by the 
> media to create a division between yourselves and other possible 
> groups of protestors. 


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