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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=2><STRONG>Feel free to circulate, for
consideration. Especially to any Christian, Muslim, Jew, who consider them
selves to be 'religious', also to the ''left'', especially to the left, it may
help break the circle.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Tom,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2> No,
actually the church people, Bush, Cheney, Clinton, Biden, Obama are all in the
White House, stop believing in the illusion, or you'll never get others to stop.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The war party runs the church at the moment, and
the same people at the top run the 'white churches as well as the 'black
churches, the 'serfs' still doff their caps and touch their forelocks, what
has the running of the feudal estate got to do with the peasants ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The churches are the place where the
'sermon-political speech for the week is given. Where the party hacks make sure
the 'congregation toe the party lines.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Next time you
come across some of these 'peaceful churchgoers, ask them if they know that an
original movement took place 2,250 years ago based on a ''messiah'', a word
which simply signifies a 'liberator' or liberation', as in movement, the word
'messiah' is only mentioned twice in what is known as the old testament, but not
at all in the new testament, King James version. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So the 'messiah' doesn't actually apply to the
Christian religions. Though foolishly many think it does. Ask them also if they
know that the 'crucifixion' was actually 2,100 years ago, and that the words
Jesus Christ, mean Jesus - helper of Yahweh, and Christ - the anointed, which
together are a job title, meaning 'high priest' and not a name.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Jesus Christ character doesn't appear at all in
the Old testament, the new testament is correctly called the 'Greek Gospels' and
the concept of 'Jesus Christ' came from the Greeks, not Arabs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> When
Constantine became the first Emperor of the Byzantine Empire, he also became
it's first 'High Priest', the position held by the new monarch, he
previously had been the God emperor of the Roman Empire, but gave it up for some
thing newer and better, a subject congregation also termed the population,
indoctrinated into a religion. The British monarch is the leading member of the
Anglo Catholic church, the Czar was the high priest/emperor of the Russian
religion, the Kaiser also the same positions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The new testament includes both the job title and
the job description, the emperor/high priest accepts to toe the line as stated,
as did <EM>'' George Bush, the Beloved, an Uncle to all American
citizens''</EM>, as does Obama at present.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Tell them
that if they study the history, based on the reference points, 2,250, and
2,100, they will find all they need to verify the dating as
correct.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Torah 2,200 years ago was the first revisionist
work 50 years after the movement subsided. It's a complete distortion of
the Arabic history, as the archaeologists have been proving. The evidence
is there, of both dates, it just means looking, go beyond the false dating that
has been taught previously, they are not being asked to give up anything but
false dating that have always brought distortion. Some evidence is already in
publication, they just don't recognise it due to incorrect 'religious
dates.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> In the mid
1940's, just over 50 years ago, the British 'promised' to remove their empire,
bring it to an end, it was supposed to completely end by the mid 1970's, but
what we have now is it's 'resurrection' again the imperialist wars, the British
are behind the invasions, but are simply using the American military as
auxiliaries. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If the Empire is gone, why are it's laws still on
the statue books ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why the same structure of the Parliament
?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why the same forms of economics ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why are the British still counted as the fourth
wealthiest state on the fact of the earth, has anyone bothered to see how small
a group of islands it is ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So where does the money come from ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Much more could be added.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The connexion between the British and the American
ruling class, is capitalism and a shared history, both lines originate from the
same divided root.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Fifty or so years ago, the
countries of Africa began to be 'given' their independence, now the Africans are
again complaining about foreign imperialism exploiting their countries, In India
again we see the growth of anti imperial movements, this time also against the
central government as well, there are insurgents in probably every state that
makes up the central state of India. Central and Northern China is also
beginning to move, again anti imperialism.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And in Europe, the 'new constitution' and the
possible 'election' of Tony Blair as it's first President.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Wait till/for a generation that
has taken a revolution to grow old, 50 years will do nicely, in the mean time
falsely educate the younger generations, its all been done previously, there has
always been a reason for keeping the ''religion'', but also a reason for
teaching the masses one story, whilst keeping the truth of history
hidden.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> How does the quaint story of
''Jesus fit in with the barbarian history of the Byzantine empire and mass
slavery, or the German empire and it's religion Catholicism, and feudal
economics and serfdom, or the exploitation of capitalism, the expansion of the
last three centuries and all the barbarism.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The real examples of 'revisionist Christianity's,
that based on the Bible with the Torah as it's 'root' are the people
mentioned in the top line of this piece.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But there was an earlier movement, 2,250 years
ago.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> For the 'peaceful Christians of
the congregation' to move forwards and at the same time avoid applying again the
barbarism of the last century in two great wars of Europe, both of which were
religious wars, they have to resolve some contradictions, and that can only be
done by re-examine the history of its' origins, or again the Christian fascist
will appear.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Capitalism began it's life in
Britain, with state capitalism from Henry 8th to the 1640's, then private
capitalism. The opposition to absolute rule, 'god's appointed by divine right'
came to an end in the mid 1600's <U>in England</U>, but was instituted
throughout the Empire till 1945. Stalin imposed it and state capitalism in
Russia, Hitler in German, Mao in China. It all comes back to it's original
root.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then see what they have to say.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> 'Old saying'' If the mountain
will not come to Mohammed, then Mohammed must go to the mountain, Try a visit to
the church goers, collectively they would, piled on top of each other, make a
sizable mountain.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As for the 'left, they are 'riddled'' [an old word
for contradiction] with sectarianism, the basis of which is
religion.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gerald.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> Tom
Lash. <B>To:</B> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 10, 2009 4:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Cindy responds to
QUETZALCOATL38 on poor reception in St. Louis</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>The left, as ususal, is in a circle firing
squad. Few show up for the Sunday peace rally at the
HB pier. Perfect place to table and talk to people ....i guess all
the peaceful people are in church. I will be at the pier on Sunday's and
support those that take a weekly stand against the fascist wave that is moving
across the country.<BR><BR>
<DIV style="CLEAR: both">Tom Lash<BR>Coastal Convergence Society Huntington
Beach
CA<BR>714-964-2162</DIV>--------------------------------------------<BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Sent: Fri, Oct 9, 2009 12:24 am<BR>Subject: Cindy
responds to QUETZALCOATL38 on poor reception in St. Louis<BR><BR>
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<DIV>the woman who organized it did a lousy job, unfortunately</DIV>
<DIV>and i am in Sweden now</DIV>
<DIV>Love</DIV>
<DIV>Cindy<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:41 AM, <Rose<SPAN
dir=ltr>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>i am in st louis - hoping to move ASAP - the place is a joke </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>but </DIV>
<DIV>i didn't know she was here i could have gotten folks together and
gotten some press </DIV>
<DIV>damn</DIV>
<DIV>there was no word and no real press </DIV>
<DIV>has Cindy left already ?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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size=2><B> <IMG
src="http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/clip_art/gstres/anmls/panda">
Peace, Hugs, and Purrs, <IMG
src="http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/clip_art/gstres/anmls/cat"><BR>Carolyn Rose
Goyda <BR>Missouri, </B></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#ff0000
size=2>U</FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>S</FONT><FONT
lang=0 face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2>A</FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 10/9/2009 1:18:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
writes:</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 52px; FONT: 12px Helvetica"><B>From:
</B><B>Subject: </B><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"></SPAN><B>Cindy Sheehan
ignored in St. Louis.....</B><B>Date: </B><SPAN
style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"></SPAN>October 8, 2009 5:07:26 AM PDT</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 52px; FONT: 12px Helvetica"><SPAN
style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"></SPAN><B>To: </B><SPAN
style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"></SPAN>undisclosed-recipients:;</DIV></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><FONT face="Times New Roman, serif"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4>Friday night, Oct. 2,
2009</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><FONT face="Times New Roman, serif"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4>In what should have been a packed house,
Cindy Sheehan spoke to less than 15 people at the Overland Community
Center Friday night. The St. Louis anti-war movement, including IOW, Peace
Economy Project, UFPJ, VFP, AFSC and others, refused to mobilize it's
members to welcome this woman. Cindy has worked tirelessly for the
withdrawal of U.S. military forces from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, the
Persian Gulf, Somalia and elsewhere.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><FONT
face="Times N ew Roman, serif"><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4>Cindy
gave an excellent talk and was inspiring as well as energizing. In the
past, these same local “anti-war” groups couldn't get enough of
Cindy.<BR><BR>Why now the lack of welcome from the St. Louis Peace
Movement? Why did these same organizations which hosted an all-day seminar
grading President Obama's first 100 days, giving him passing grades,
choose not to recognize our sister, Gold Star Mother and outspoken peace
activist? They were most certainly notified in advance, and there weren't
any conflicting events.<BR><BR>The answer? Cindy Sheehan is not a member
of the Democratic Party. This is the same party that gave us the wars in
Korea, Vietnam, eight deadly years=2 0of sanctions against the people of
Iraq, war in the Balkans, the escalation of death/destruction in
Afghanistan, Pakistan, and possibly Iran and Somalia. Remember it was a
Democrat who authorized the only use in history, of atomic
weapons.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><FONT face="Times New Roman, serif"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4>Instead, Cindy ran for the U.S. Senate CA.
on the <B>Peace</B> and Freedom Party's ticket. Friday night,
Cindy was asked what person she admired most. Cindy's answer was, "Cynthia
McKinney". As we all know, Ms. McKinney, a former Congresswoman from
Grorgia, was driven out of office by pro-war Democrats, the DNC and the
AIPAC lobby. After Hurricane Katrina displaced thousands of working class
people in New Orleans, Cynthia McKinney unhesitatingly went to help. When
the <I><B>Free Gaza Movement </B></I>sent cargo ships to
Palestine to break the genocidal blockade of Gaza by Israel, Cynthia
McKinney answered the call!<BR><BR>But we also know that Cynthia McKinney
ran for President on the Green Party ticket. She is no longer a member of
the Democratic Party---having learned the lesson first-hand that standing
up for principles cannot and will not be tolerated by corporate and
imperial interests. The history of the Democratic Party is a history of
betrayal and heartbreak for the working class, people of color, and those
who sincerely want to implement a “progressive agenda” in
America.<BR><BR>Anti-War activists need to support each other despite
political differences.<BR>But the political differences themselves answer
the questions posed at the beginning of this letter. Cindy Sheehan
supported Ms. McKinney for President rather than Barak Obama. Mr. Obama's
pro war stance made it impossible for Cindy to give him any support. As
the war drums grow louder from the Pentagon and the White House, the peace
movement appears to be stagnant. Rather than depending on the majority of
American people opposed to the ongoing wars, the Peace Movement appealed
to elected officials (Democratic Party). The Guantanamo Death and Torture
Camp remains open as do all of the secret prisons used around the world in
the West's war on Islam (war on terror). The attack on civil liberties
continuation of the USA PATRIOT ACT, warrant-less surveillance, indefinite
detentions, the failure to recognize the World Court... nothing has
changed.<BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><FONT face="Times New Roman, serif"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4><BR>Timothy
Kaminski</FONT></FONT></FONT><BR></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>-- <BR>"President Obama leads a racist imperialist system whose
failure is obvious and cannot be reformed. It can only survive with the
exploitation of people here and rape of people abroad. The conditions of our
people have not changed." Sobukwe Shakura of the All African People's
Revolutionary Party<BR><A title=http://www.cindysheehanssoapbox.com/
href="http://www.cindysheehanssoapbox.com/"
target=_blank>www.CindySheehansSoapbox.com</A></DIV>
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