<div dir="ltr"><a href="http://tweenbots.com/">http://tweenbots.com/</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/27 brolin . <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brolin108@gmail.com" target="_blank">brolin108@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Se llaman tweenbots, algo así <a href="http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2009/04/tweenbots-help/" target="_blank">http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2009/04/tweenbots-help/</a> pero que lleve nuestro mensaje (nuestro arecibo <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_message" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_message</a>)<br>

<br></div>:D<br><br></div>vomitando<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/27 Federico Lopez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jardincosmico@gmail.com" target="_blank">jardincosmico@gmail.com</a>></span><br>

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    Eli, gracias por la minería.. la necesitaba, comento mas abajo<div><br>
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    <br>
    <div>On 05/27/2013 04:24 PM, Eliana Beltran
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Alguien preguntó por objetivos ,  misión , visión
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><a href="http://www.virtualeduca.org/documentos/2012/ve_infogen%2831.12.2012%29.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.virtualeduca.org/documentos/2012/ve_infogen(31.12.2012).pdf</a></div>
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        <div>Apartes:<br>
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            <div>INFORMACIÓN GENERAL [ref.- 31.12.2012]</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Virtual Educa fue adoptada como proyecto adscrito a la
              Cumbre Iberoamericana de Jefes </div>
            <div>de Estado y de Gobierno en la XIV Cumbre [Declaración
              de San José de Costa Rica, </div>
            <div>20/11/2004, cláusula 36]: “Saludamos con beneplácito la
              incorporación como proyecto </div>
            <div>adscrito a la Cumbre Iberoamericana del Programa
              Virtual Educa, iniciativa que </div>
            <div>ejemplifica la relevancia de fortalecer la educación a
              distancia y la utilización de las </div>
            <div>nuevas tecnologías de comunicación e información en
              nuestra región.”.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>La integración de Virtual Educa en la OEA ha permitido
              globalizar la iniciativa, haciéndola </div>
            <div>extensiva al Caribe de lengua inglesa y reforzando el
              eje interamericano. Es además de </div>
            <div>destacar el énfasis de Virtual Educa en tres conceptos
              que deben necesariamente </div>
            <div>vincularse a la Educación y a la Formación en el mundo
              global del paradigma </div>
            <div>tecnológico, esto es, “innovación, competitividad y
              desarrollo”, con la sostenibilidad como </div>
            <div>eje transversal. </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>
              <div>2. VISIÓN Y MISIÓN </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>2.2. Misión</div>
              <div>
                a. Colaborar en la definición de políticas públicas,
                específicamente en lo relativo a la </div>
              <div>incorporación de la innov@ción a la Educación,
                mediante análisis de necesidades,</div>
            </div>
          </div>
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    ¿Cómo colectaran esas necesidades?  que bueno hacer nuestra lista de
    necesidades y pasárselas.<div><br>
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        <div>
          <div>
            <div>
              <div>informes técnicos, estudios de resultados y
                presentación de modelos de intervención </div>
              <div>basados en buenas prácticas. Elaborar recomendaciones
                que tomen en </div>
              <div>consideración cómo hacer un uso más eficiente de los
                recursos asignados.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>b. Establecer mecanismos permanentes de cooperación
                entre los sectores público y </div>
              <div>privado [public - private partnership], armonizando
                inversión, rentabilidad y eficacia, </div>
              <div>tanto en términos institucionales como empresariales.
                <br>
              </div>
            </div>
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    <br></div>
    cooperaciones podría incluir el sector independiente y a "inversión,
    rentabilidad y eficacia" podría agregarsele, diversión, curiosidad y
    trabajo colectivo.<div><br>
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              </div>
              <div>c. Favorecer el diálogo y la adopción conjunta de
                decisiones sobre elementos </div>
              <div>estratégicos de la Educación en el siglo XXI por
                parte de los cuatro sectores claves </div>
              <div>para el cambio social: a) gubernamental /
                multilateral; b) académico; c) corporativo; <br>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
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    <br></div>
    d) creativo?  <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    saludos, <br>
    <br>
    f.<div><div><br>
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              <div>E</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/27 Fabio Barone <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:holon.earth@gmail.com" target="_blank">holon.earth@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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              <div>Apoyo lo que dice kalash sobre tener cuidado con esos
                eventos con la agenda oculta de mucha de esa gente.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Igual les quiero dejar un pensamiento. Es que
                especialmente en el mundo de la educación (pero también
                en lo del negocio, etc.) hay gente que tiene buen
                corazón que está harta de como van las cosas, y
                sinceramente busca nuevas opciones, pero no las conoce o
                no ha encontrado aliados.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Osea se trata de no perder el propio rumbo mientras
                compartimos nuestras ideas, y de no alimentar contenido
                fácil y barato a gente que la verdad no le importa la
                esencia de lo que se plantea.</div>
              <div>
                <br>
              </div>
              <div>A mi me gustaría más la opción de desarrollar un
                proyecto ahí mismo, pero al momento no se me ocurre nada
                que pueda impactar en un evento así. No me veo como un
                buen conferencista, por lo cual no quisiera ponerme a
                dar una charla yo mismo, pero apoyo quien lo quisiera
                hacer. </div>
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                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/27 María Juliana Yepes
                    Burgos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mariajulianayb@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariajulianayb@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">+1 con Brolin. 
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Creo
                            que podemos seguir con lo que estamos
                            haciendo en el pad y ponemos.
                            Especificaciones y recursos. Ya que ellos
                            miren si los ponen o no. Me parece eso sí,
                            que en la propuesta debe haber un texto que
                            manifiesta esa intención colectiva de cómo
                            vemos la educación y ahí sí desarrollar cada
                            "nodo" "ponente" "actividad".</span><br>
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                        <br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">El 27 de mayo de 2013
                          11:40, Federico Lopez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jardincosmico@gmail.com" target="_blank">jardincosmico@gmail.com</a>></span>
                          escribió:
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                                  aquí voy en el intento de darle  forma
                                  resumida a este hilo para dar una
                                  respuesta a jhon:<br>
                                  <br>
                                  * Nos interesa el tema de la educación
                                  y venimos haciendo proyectos
                                  relacionados con esa área desde hace
                                  rato como se puede ver en nuestros
                                  sitios web.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  * Vemos el evento Virtual Educa como
                                  una gran plataforma de negocios en la
                                  educación, nosotros por el momento no
                                  estamos vendiendo directamente algo
                                  relacionado con ella entonces por
                                  ahora, como vitrina, no nos interesa.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  *  Desde nuestro hacer venimos
                                  intentando educar y educarnos a
                                  nuestra manera, y si quisieran poner
                                  en escena nuestras búsquedas para
                                  aportar otras miradas al evento ..
                                  esto sería un trabajo para nosotros y
                                  esperaríamos una retribución.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  atento a reacciones, <br>
                                  <br>
                                  fede.
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                                      <div>On 05/27/2013 10:31 AM,
                                        brolin . wrote:<br>
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                                            <div>Hola yo voto por
                                              participar, primero
                                              dejando clara nuestra
                                              posición concertada.<br>
                                              <br>
                                            </div>
                                            voto por una sola actividad
                                            que desarrollemos allá, el
                                            costo depende de lo que
                                            vayamos a hacer. Pero el
                                            valor de la propuesta se
                                            puede manejar similar al de
                                            4 presentaciones diarias.<br>
                                            <br>
                                          </div>
                                          saludos.<br>
                                        </div>
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                                          <br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/27
                                            María Juliana Yepes Burgos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mariajulianayb@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariajulianayb@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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                                              <div dir="ltr">De acuerdo
                                                con lo que propone
                                                Brolin y me inclino por
                                                lo de la propuesta 3.
                                                Digo que lo de cobrar
                                                dinero va por el lado de
                                                hacer presentaciones
                                                formales, ponencias o
                                                talleres. Pero lo de
                                                sentar nuestra posición
                                                crítica, manifestarla a
                                                través de un
                                                conversatorio o foro, o
                                                lo que sea, entre todos,
                                                o realizar algunas
                                                acciones allá, sería
                                                algo menos institucional
                                                y que ya no tiene que
                                                ver con una
                                                participación o
                                                intercambio de
                                                "beneficios". Es abrir
                                                la discusión desde la
                                                posición de ciudadanos
                                                con otras perspectivas
                                                frente a los temas de
                                                educación y tecnología,
                                                evidenciar que estos
                                                temas los vemos desde
                                                otros ángulos que se
                                                alejan de la innovación
                                                y la competitividad. </div>
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                                                <br>
                                                <div class="gmail_quote">El
                                                  27 de mayo de 2013
                                                  06:24, Federico Lopez
                                                  <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jardincosmico@gmail.com" target="_blank">jardincosmico@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                  escribió:
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                                                          <div>On
                                                          05/26/2013
                                                          07:29 PM,
                                                          brolin .
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>En parte
                                                          de acuerdo con
                                                          lo que dice
                                                          juan.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Si vamos a
                                                          participar,
                                                          como propuse
                                                          en el pad. Hay
                                                          que escribir
                                                          una posición
                                                          concertada, si
                                                          vamos a
                                                          participar que
                                                          por lo menos
                                                          quede bien
                                                          claro lo que
                                                          pensamos los
                                                          diferentes
                                                          grupos. Otra
                                                          cosa es que
                                                          estamos en
                                                          posición de
                                                          negociar con
                                                          ellos, la
                                                          plata puede
                                                          ser la salida
                                                          más fácil para
                                                          ellos (no se
                                                          si estamos
                                                          hablando de la
                                                          Alcaldía o el
                                                          evento como
                                                          tal) pero que
                                                          tal concertar
                                                          cosas de más
                                                          largo aliento.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Decidamos
                                                          entonces si
                                                          participamos y
                                                          en qué
                                                          condiciones.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Participamos? 
                                                          voten<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          ¿Cuanto y cómo
                                                          cobramos?
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          <br>
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                                                          A mi me parece
                                                          desgastante
                                                          hacer talleres
                                                          estoy por
                                                          convencerme de
                                                          que no es la
                                                          forma. Las
                                                          personas
                                                          curiosas
                                                          preguntan, no
                                                          me siento en
                                                          capacidad de
                                                          enseñar nada
                                                          solo me
                                                          interesa
                                                          compartir la
                                                          curiosidad con
                                                          los demás y a
                                                          aprender
                                                          juntos; por
                                                          eso como
                                                          "intervención"
                                                          propongo
                                                          desarrollar un
                                                          proyecto
                                                          nuestro, algo
                                                          que se
                                                          desarrolle en
                                                          esa semana (no
                                                          que
                                                          necesariamente
                                                          se tenga que
                                                          terminar). <br>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Esa podría ser
                                                          una Propuesta
                                                          3 <br>
                                                          Irnos a
                                                          trabajar allá
                                                          en un proyecto
                                                          durante esos
                                                          días,
                                                          testificar el
                                                          proceso.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          ¿Cuanto crees
                                                          que deberíamos
                                                          pedir para
                                                          esta
                                                          propuesta?
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                                                          <div> <br>
                                                          Mostrar la
                                                          forma de hacer
                                                          y dejar clara
                                                          la posición
                                                          frente los
                                                          temas
                                                          educación y
                                                          tecnología e
                                                          innovación.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          b<br>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/26

                                                          kalashnikov <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kalashnikov@otrabanda.org" target="_blank">kalashnikov@otrabanda.org</a>></span><br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">hola

                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>como
                                                          siempre mas
                                                          animado que
                                                          godo en misa</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>tengo
                                                          como 2.1 poses
                                                          para esta foto</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>- no
                                                          me gustaría participar
                                                          de una manera
                                                          que aportara
                                                          al objetivo de
                                                          el evento ,
                                                          que
                                                          no aparece en ningún lado(no
                                                          lo encontre <a href="http://www.virtualeduca.org/encuentros/colombia/convocatoria.php" target="_blank">http://www.virtualeduca.org/encuentros/colombia/convocatoria.php</a>)
                                                          , pero si su
                                                          patrocinadores
                                                          ,y como se ve
                                                          el asunto
                                                          parece de esas
                                                          cosas que no
                                                          van por buen
                                                          camino</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>- se debe
                                                          cobrar por que
                                                          hay plata en
                                                          el trasfondo,
                                                          a no se que
                                                          quiera ser
                                                          relleno
                                                          sanitario, y
                                                          la participación debe
                                                          ser a mi modo
                                                          de vista
                                                          hackeando la
                                                          feria, que
                                                          pelle estar en
                                                          stand sentado
                                                          esperando a
                                                          los marranos,
                                                          como andar por
                                                          el espacio
                                                          haciendo cosas
y deshaciendo cosas</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>1 me
                                                          gusta mucho
                                                          las ponencias
                                                          ,por eso
                                                          debemos pedir
                                                          escarapela
                                                          hasta pa los
                                                          que no van ,
                                                          como hacer un
                                                          grupo grande y
                                                          hacer que
                                                          alguno valla a
                                                          cada ponencia
                                                          o a un grupo
                                                          seleccionadode
                                                          ponecias, para
                                                          hacer una
                                                          buena apreciación.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>igual me
                                                          resigno a
                                                          pasear
                                                          abuelitos/angelitos
                                                          y trapear
                                                          baños ........</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>y la
                                                          piratebox,
                                                          como doble
                                                          sentido, para
                                                          espacio de
                                                          intercambio de
                                                          el evento ,
                                                          pongo router,
                                                          se gestiona un
                                                          disco duro
                                                          para poner las
                                                          cosas....o
                                                          pc... un
                                                          espacio con 2
                                                          o 5 sillas y
                                                          mesitas , y
                                                          regar la bola
                                                          a ver que
                                                          pasa, invitar
                                                          a los ponentes
                                                          a subir sus
                                                          ponencias en
                                                          el box, dejar
                                                          la peli de
                                                          piratebay y
                                                          otras de cine
                                                          arte... algo
                                                          de porno a ver
                                                          que pasa....</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>desayuno</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/25

                                                          Federico Lopez
                                                          <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jardincosmico@gmail.com" target="_blank">jardincosmico@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                                          <div> <br>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          05/25/2013
                                                          10:13 AM,
                                                          kalashnikov
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          hay que poner
                                                          una piratebox<br>
                                                           :D
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          de una!<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Tenemos hasta
                                                          el lunes para
                                                          presentar
                                                          nuestras
                                                          propuestas,
                                                          hasta el
                                                          momento hay
                                                          dos
                                                          planteamientos:<br>
                                                          Uno es algo
                                                          mas para ver <br>
                                                          El  segundo
                                                          es  basados en
                                                          presentaciones,
                                                          esta propuesta
                                                          trata de
                                                          vincular una
                                                          retribución a
                                                          quien
                                                          investigue
                                                          planee y
                                                          presente un
                                                          tema.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          ideas y más
                                                          propuestas o
                                                          modelos aca<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a href="http://piratepad.net/virtuaeduca" target="_blank">http://piratepad.net/virtuaeduca</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          f.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          PD: dejo copia
                                                          de lo que hay
                                                          hasta el
                                                          momento en el
                                                          piratepad<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div><span>Participación

                                                          en VirtuaEduca</span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span><b>Propuesta

                                                          1</b></span><span>
                                                          (sin costo)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span>Instalación

                                                          en un
                                                          computador con
                                                          una
                                                          presentación
                                                          rotativa de 
                                                          los colectivos
                                                          y proyectos.</span></div>
                                                          <div><span>continenteContenido

                                                          presentará lo
                                                          logrado con la
                                                          beca de
                                                          creación</span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span><b>Propuesta

                                                          2</b></span><span>
                                                          (con beneficio
                                                          para ponentes)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span>de
                                                          1 a 4
                                                          ponencias
                                                          diarias con
                                                          una
                                                          retribuciön
                                                          para el que
                                                          hace la
                                                          investigación,
                                                          prepara y
                                                          presenta el
                                                          tema 
                                                          (sugerimos
                                                          $200.000 cada
                                                          una) con temas
                                                          como:</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=reHab" target="_blank">#reHab</a></span><span> : proyecto de rehabilitación
                                                          vocacional (
                                                          un/loquer)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=SOSTech" target="_blank">#SOSTech</a></span><span> : consultorio tecnológico para
                                                          artistas 
                                                          (brolin?)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=StackOverflow" target="_blank">#StackOverflow</a></span><span> (sistemas de pregunta y
                                                          respuesta)
                                                          como modelo de
                                                          educación.(fede
                                                          y fabio?)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=co.operaciones" target="_blank">#co.operaciones</a></span><span> Aprendizaje en la
                                                          relación
                                                          instituciones-colectivos
                                                          independientes
                                                          (camilo)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=udelosni%C3%B1os" target="_blank">#udelosniños</a></span><span> la experiencia de elena en
                                                          la universidad
                                                          de los niños
                                                          (elmago)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=continenteContenido" target="_blank">#continenteContenido</a></span><span> potencial de los
                                                          experimentos
                                                          con redes en
                                                          la educación</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=desCubrimientos" target="_blank">#desCubrimientos</a></span><span> experimentos de
                                                          comunicación
                                                          (Maria
                                                          Juliana?)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=radioLibre" target="_blank">#radioLibre</a></span><span> (alejo?)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=fanzine" target="_blank">#fanzine</a></span><span> manuales estilo fanzine
                                                          (cheho?)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=chefKalash" target="_blank">#chefKalash</a></span><span> temas variados y bizzaros
                                                          (kalash)</span></div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/25


                                                          Federico Lopez
                                                          <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:federico1113@gmail.com" target="_blank">federico1113@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                                          <div> <br>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          05/24/2013
                                                          08:00 PM,
                                                          María Juliana
                                                          Yepes Burgos
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">¿Mayo

                                                          o junio? :P Me
                                                          gusta la idea,
                                                          sobre todo que
                                                          se junten los
                                                          temas y
                                                          parches que
                                                          mencionaste,
                                                          un lugar
                                                          común.
                                                           ¿Existe ya un
                                                          pirate pad o
                                                          algo para
                                                          empezar a
                                                          poner ideas de
                                                          programación?
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          En este
                                                          podemos
                                                          hacerle:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a href="http://piratepad.net/virtuaeduca" target="_blank">http://piratepad.net/virtuaeduca</a> 
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Creemos que
                                                          podríamos
                                                          plantear dos
                                                          propuestas,
                                                          una sin costo
                                                          que sería mas
                                                          una muestra
                                                          instalación,
                                                          con una
                                                          máquina
                                                          mostrando los
                                                          websites,
                                                          libros,
                                                          videos,
                                                          timelines etc.
                                                          y otra donde
                                                          podamos
                                                          presupuestar
                                                          un beneficio
                                                          económico para
                                                          quienes
                                                          preparen una
                                                          actividad,
                                                          quizá $200mil
                                                          por 1 hora de
                                                          actividad  y
                                                          poner como 4
                                                          actividades
                                                          por día,
                                                          seguimos
                                                          discutiendo en
                                                          el pad.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          saludos, <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          fede.
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra">
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">El


                                                          24 de mayo de
                                                          2013 19:02,
                                                          Federico Lopez
                                                          <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:federico1113@gmail.com" target="_blank">federico1113@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          escribió:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          Hola,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                              un poco de
                                                          contexto para
                                                          los nuevos
                                                          incluidos en
                                                          el hilo:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          > Me llama
                                                          Jhon Correa,
                                                          esta
                                                          organizando
                                                          algo que tiene
                                                          que ver con
                                                          Virtual
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          > Educa ( <a href="http://www.virtualeduca.org" target="_blank">http://www.virtualeduca.org</a>
                                                          ),  Maria del
                                                          Rosario de
                                                          secretaría de<br>
                                                          > cultura
                                                          le sugirió que
                                                          contactara a
                                                          continenteContenido
                                                          y/o unloquer,
                                                          hoy<br>
                                                          > almuerzo
                                                          con él por los
                                                          lados de
                                                          Manila en el
                                                          poblado por si
                                                          Maria Juliana,<br>
                                                          > Brolin, o
                                                          Camilo quieren
                                                          parchar .. de
                                                          todas maneras
                                                          tomo nota y
                                                          les estaré<br>
                                                          > contando
                                                          para ver que
                                                          quieren y como
                                                          podemos
                                                          participar.<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Ya me reuní
                                                          con John
                                                          Correa, nos
                                                          ofrece un
                                                          espacio en el
                                                          evento donde
                                                          podemos estar
                                                          todos los 4
                                                          días del
                                                          evento (17,
                                                          18, 19, 20 de
                                                          mayo) y
                                                          programar los
                                                          temas que nos
                                                          interesen
                                                          sobre
                                                          educación,
                                                          básicamente es
                                                          como un
                                                          montaje
                                                          parecido al de
                                                          Manizales,
                                                          unas mesas,
                                                          nosotros
                                                          haciendo
                                                          nuestras cosas
                                                          y gente
                                                          pasando por
                                                          ahí y
                                                          preguntando/participando.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          La feria tiene
                                                          muchos
                                                          componentes de
                                                          educación
                                                          virtual de la
                                                          manera como la
                                                          ven las
                                                          universidades
                                                          y el gobierno,
                                                          a john le
                                                          pareció
                                                          fascinante
                                                          poder mostrar
                                                          otra faceta,
                                                          la manera como
                                                          nosotros vemos
                                                          la educación,
                                                          entonces es un
                                                          espacio para
                                                          hablar de
                                                          #reHab
                                                           #SOStech
                                                          #coopitecas,
                                                          #loDoyPorqueQuiero
                                                          #radioLibre
                                                          #platohedro
                                                          #morada
                                                          #laloli etc.
                                                           el espacio
                                                          queda
                                                          disponible y
                                                          quien quiera
                                                          preparar una
                                                          charla vamos a
                                                          hacer una
                                                          parrilla para
                                                          tener algo
                                                          como una
                                                          programación.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          En esa feria
                                                          circulará
                                                          gente de
                                                          varios países
                                                          interesados en
                                                          el tema de la
                                                          educación
                                                          contemporánea,
                                                          entonces,
                                                          Fabio, puede
                                                          ser una buena
                                                          vitrina para
                                                          conseguir
                                                          aliados en la
                                                          idea que se
                                                          esta gestando
                                                          en coopitecas.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Por el lado de
                                                          continenteContenido


                                                          Maria del
                                                          Rosario le
                                                          planteo a Jhon
                                                          el proyecto
                                                          como uno de
                                                          los proyectos
                                                          que secretaría
                                                          de educación
                                                          quisiera
                                                          mostrar a los
                                                          visitantes.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          En el tiempo
                                                          muerto (donde
                                                          nadie quiera
                                                          presentar nada
                                                          ) podemos
                                                          estar
                                                          trabajando,
                                                          conversando,
                                                           o podemos
                                                          dejar los
                                                          routers con
                                                          textos wifi y
                                                          un computador
                                                          conectado al
                                                          IRC o algo así
                                                          que represente
                                                          nuestra
                                                          presencia.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Ellos ponen
                                                          requerimientos
                                                          técnicos como
                                                          computadores,
                                                          wifi, puntos
                                                          de red, mesa
                                                          (le dije que
                                                          mesa para
                                                          aprox 6
                                                          personas).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Le pregunté si
                                                          podría existir
                                                          algún tipo de
                                                          retribución
                                                          para las
                                                          personas que
                                                          se quedaran
                                                          allí todo el
                                                          tiempo, me
                                                          dijo que no
                                                          estaba
                                                          contemplado,
                                                          que en caso
                                                          que nadie se
                                                          quedara, se
                                                          podría dejar
                                                          algún tipo de
                                                          elementos
                                                          representativos
                                                          de nuestras
                                                          ideas (como
                                                          escribí arriba
                                                          routers, IRC,
                                                          radiolibre
                                                          sonando, algo
                                                          así), pero hay
                                                          refrigerios.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Podemos ocupar
                                                          arquitectonicamente


                                                          el espacio que
                                                          nos asignen ..
                                                          "adornando"
                                                          las nubes que
                                                          usarán para
                                                          todo el
                                                          montaje .. con
                                                          nuestro orden.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          saludos,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          fede.<br>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          sans-serif">María


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                                                          Burgos<br>
                                                          Comunicación
                                                          Social -
                                                          Periodismo</font></div>
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