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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/27/2013 03:56 PM, Fabio Barone
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAOL8i_=ou4Yi5RgRYKSAdo9asYdz=5nikZ-XFnxztjSqfegowA@mail.gmail.com"
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        <div>Apoyo lo que dice kalash sobre tener cuidado con esos
          eventos con la agenda oculta de mucha de esa gente.</div>
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        <div>Igual les quiero dejar un pensamiento. Es que especialmente
          en el mundo de la educación (pero también en lo del negocio,
          etc.) hay gente que tiene buen corazón que está harta de como
          van las cosas, y sinceramente busca nuevas opciones, pero no
          las conoce o no ha encontrado aliados.</div>
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    ¿Cómo se te ocurre que podemos compartir nuestras visiones con
    ellos? ¿Qué tal hacer unas invitaciones  a casa tres patios, a estas
    personas y conversar con ellos ? invitarlos directamente a lo doy x
    que quiero ?  .. que otra manera se te ocurre?<br>
    <br>
    fede. <br>
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cite="mid:CAOL8i_=ou4Yi5RgRYKSAdo9asYdz=5nikZ-XFnxztjSqfegowA@mail.gmail.com"
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        <div>Osea se trata de no perder el propio rumbo mientras
          compartimos nuestras ideas, y de no alimentar contenido fácil
          y barato a gente que la verdad no le importa la esencia de lo
          que se plantea.</div>
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          <br>
        </div>
        <div>A mi me gustaría más la opción de desarrollar un proyecto
          ahí mismo, pero al momento no se me ocurre nada que pueda
          impactar en un evento así. No me veo como un buen
          conferencista, por lo cual no quisiera ponerme a dar una
          charla yo mismo, pero apoyo quien lo quisiera hacer. </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/27 María Juliana Yepes Burgos <span
            dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:mariajulianayb@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariajulianayb@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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            <div dir="ltr">+1 con Brolin. 
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              <div><span
                  style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Creo
                  que podemos seguir con lo que estamos haciendo en el
                  pad y ponemos. Especificaciones y recursos. Ya que
                  ellos miren si los ponen o no. Me parece eso sí, que
                  en la propuesta debe haber un texto que manifiesta esa
                  intención colectiva de cómo vemos la educación y ahí
                  sí desarrollar cada "nodo" "ponente" "actividad".</span><br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">El 27 de mayo de 2013 11:40,
                Federico Lopez <span dir="ltr"><<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:jardincosmico@gmail.com"
                    target="_blank">jardincosmico@gmail.com</a>></span>
                escribió:
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                      <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> aquí voy en
                        el intento de darle  forma resumida a este hilo
                        para dar una respuesta a jhon:<br>
                        <br>
                        * Nos interesa el tema de la educación y venimos
                        haciendo proyectos relacionados con esa área
                        desde hace rato como se puede ver en nuestros
                        sitios web.<br>
                        <br>
                        * Vemos el evento Virtual Educa como una gran
                        plataforma de negocios en la educación, nosotros
                        por el momento no estamos vendiendo directamente
                        algo relacionado con ella entonces por ahora,
                        como vitrina, no nos interesa.<br>
                        <br>
                        *  Desde nuestro hacer venimos intentando educar
                        y educarnos a nuestra manera, y si quisieran
                        poner en escena nuestras búsquedas para aportar
                        otras miradas al evento .. esto sería un trabajo
                        para nosotros y esperaríamos una retribución.<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        atento a reacciones, <br>
                        <br>
                        fede.
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                            <div>On 05/27/2013 10:31 AM, brolin . wrote:<br>
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                                  <div>Hola yo voto por participar,
                                    primero dejando clara nuestra
                                    posición concertada.<br>
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                                  voto por una sola actividad que
                                  desarrollemos allá, el costo depende
                                  de lo que vayamos a hacer. Pero el
                                  valor de la propuesta se puede manejar
                                  similar al de 4 presentaciones
                                  diarias.<br>
                                  <br>
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                                saludos.<br>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/27 María
                                  Juliana Yepes Burgos <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:mariajulianayb@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">mariajulianayb@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">De acuerdo con lo que
                                      propone Brolin y me inclino por lo
                                      de la propuesta 3. Digo que lo de
                                      cobrar dinero va por el lado de
                                      hacer presentaciones formales,
                                      ponencias o talleres. Pero lo de
                                      sentar nuestra posición crítica,
                                      manifestarla a través de un
                                      conversatorio o foro, o lo que
                                      sea, entre todos, o realizar
                                      algunas acciones allá, sería algo
                                      menos institucional y que ya no
                                      tiene que ver con una
                                      participación o intercambio de
                                      "beneficios". Es abrir la
                                      discusión desde la posición de
                                      ciudadanos con otras perspectivas
                                      frente a los temas de educación y
                                      tecnología, evidenciar que estos
                                      temas los vemos desde otros
                                      ángulos que se alejan de la
                                      innovación y la competitividad. </div>
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                                      <div class="gmail_quote">El 27 de
                                        mayo de 2013 06:24, Federico
                                        Lopez <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:jardincosmico@gmail.com"
                                            target="_blank">jardincosmico@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                        escribió:
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                                                  <div>On 05/26/2013
                                                    07:29 PM, brolin .
                                                    wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>En parte
                                                          de acuerdo con
                                                          lo que dice
                                                          juan.<br>
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                                                          Si vamos a
                                                          participar,
                                                          como propuse
                                                          en el pad. Hay
                                                          que escribir
                                                          una posición
                                                          concertada, si
                                                          vamos a
                                                          participar que
                                                          por lo menos
                                                          quede bien
                                                          claro lo que
                                                          pensamos los
                                                          diferentes
                                                          grupos. Otra
                                                          cosa es que
                                                          estamos en
                                                          posición de
                                                          negociar con
                                                          ellos, la
                                                          plata puede
                                                          ser la salida
                                                          más fácil para
                                                          ellos (no se
                                                          si estamos
                                                          hablando de la
                                                          Alcaldía o el
                                                          evento como
                                                          tal) pero que
                                                          tal concertar
                                                          cosas de más
                                                          largo aliento.<br>
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                                                Decidamos entonces si
                                                participamos y en qué
                                                condiciones.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Participamos?  voten<br>
                                                <br>
                                                ¿Cuanto y cómo cobramos?
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                                                          A mi me parece
                                                          desgastante
                                                          hacer talleres
                                                          estoy por
                                                          convencerme de
                                                          que no es la
                                                          forma. Las
                                                          personas
                                                          curiosas
                                                          preguntan, no
                                                          me siento en
                                                          capacidad de
                                                          enseñar nada
                                                          solo me
                                                          interesa
                                                          compartir la
                                                          curiosidad con
                                                          los demás y a
                                                          aprender
                                                          juntos; por
                                                          eso como
                                                          "intervención"
                                                          propongo
                                                          desarrollar un
                                                          proyecto
                                                          nuestro, algo
                                                          que se
                                                          desarrolle en
                                                          esa semana (no
                                                          que
                                                          necesariamente
                                                          se tenga que
                                                          terminar). <br>
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                                                Esa podría ser una
                                                Propuesta 3 <br>
                                                Irnos a trabajar allá en
                                                un proyecto durante esos
                                                días, testificar el
                                                proceso.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                ¿Cuanto crees que
                                                deberíamos pedir para
                                                esta propuesta?
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                                                          Mostrar la
                                                          forma de hacer
                                                          y dejar clara
                                                          la posición
                                                          frente los
                                                          temas
                                                          educación y
                                                          tecnología e
                                                          innovación.<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          -<br>
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                                                        b<br>
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">2013/5/26

                                                          kalashnikov <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:kalashnikov@otrabanda.org"
                                                          target="_blank">kalashnikov@otrabanda.org</a>></span><br>
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                                                          <div>como
                                                          siempre mas
                                                          animado que
                                                          godo en misa</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>tengo
                                                          como 2.1 poses
                                                          para esta foto</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>- no
                                                          me gustaría participar
                                                          de una manera
                                                          que aportara
                                                          al objetivo de
                                                          el evento ,
                                                          que
                                                          no aparece en ningún lado(no
                                                          lo encontre <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://www.virtualeduca.org/encuentros/colombia/convocatoria.php"
target="_blank">http://www.virtualeduca.org/encuentros/colombia/convocatoria.php</a>)
                                                          , pero si su
                                                          patrocinadores
                                                          ,y como se ve
                                                          el asunto
                                                          parece de esas
                                                          cosas que no
                                                          van por buen
                                                          camino</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>- se debe
                                                          cobrar por que
                                                          hay plata en
                                                          el trasfondo,
                                                          a no se que
                                                          quiera ser
                                                          relleno
                                                          sanitario, y
                                                          la participación debe
                                                          ser a mi modo
                                                          de vista
                                                          hackeando la
                                                          feria, que
                                                          pelle estar en
                                                          stand sentado
                                                          esperando a
                                                          los marranos,
                                                          como andar por
                                                          el espacio
                                                          haciendo cosas
y deshaciendo cosas</div>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>1 me
                                                          gusta mucho
                                                          las ponencias
                                                          ,por eso
                                                          debemos pedir
                                                          escarapela
                                                          hasta pa los
                                                          que no van ,
                                                          como hacer un
                                                          grupo grande y
                                                          hacer que
                                                          alguno valla a
                                                          cada ponencia
                                                          o a un grupo
                                                          seleccionadode
                                                          ponecias, para
                                                          hacer una
                                                          buena apreciación.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>igual me
                                                          resigno a
                                                          pasear
                                                          abuelitos/angelitos
                                                          y trapear
                                                          baños ........</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>y la
                                                          piratebox,
                                                          como doble
                                                          sentido, para
                                                          espacio de
                                                          intercambio de
                                                          el evento ,
                                                          pongo router,
                                                          se gestiona un
                                                          disco duro
                                                          para poner las
                                                          cosas....o
                                                          pc... un
                                                          espacio con 2
                                                          o 5 sillas y
                                                          mesitas , y
                                                          regar la bola
                                                          a ver que
                                                          pasa, invitar
                                                          a los ponentes
                                                          a subir sus
                                                          ponencias en
                                                          el box, dejar
                                                          la peli de
                                                          piratebay y
                                                          otras de cine
                                                          arte... algo
                                                          de porno a ver
                                                          que pasa....</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>desayuno</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">2013/5/25

                                                          Federico Lopez
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jardincosmico@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">jardincosmico@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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                                                          <div>On
                                                          05/25/2013
                                                          10:13 AM,
                                                          kalashnikov
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          hay que poner
                                                          una piratebox<br>
                                                           :D
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                                                          de una!<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Tenemos hasta
                                                          el lunes para
                                                          presentar
                                                          nuestras
                                                          propuestas,
                                                          hasta el
                                                          momento hay
                                                          dos
                                                          planteamientos:<br>
                                                          Uno es algo
                                                          mas para ver <br>
                                                          El  segundo
                                                          es  basados en
                                                          presentaciones,
                                                          esta propuesta
                                                          trata de
                                                          vincular una
                                                          retribución a
                                                          quien
                                                          investigue
                                                          planee y
                                                          presente un
                                                          tema.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          ideas y más
                                                          propuestas o
                                                          modelos aca<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
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href="http://piratepad.net/virtuaeduca" target="_blank">http://piratepad.net/virtuaeduca</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          f.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          PD: dejo copia
                                                          de lo que hay
                                                          hasta el
                                                          momento en el
                                                          piratepad<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div><span>Participación

                                                          en VirtuaEduca</span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span><b>Propuesta

                                                          1</b></span><span>
                                                          (sin costo)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span>Instalación

                                                          en un
                                                          computador con
                                                          una
                                                          presentación
                                                          rotativa de 
                                                          los colectivos
                                                          y proyectos.</span></div>
                                                          <div><span>continenteContenido

                                                          presentará lo
                                                          logrado con la
                                                          beca de
                                                          creación</span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span><b>Propuesta

                                                          2</b></span><span>
                                                          (con beneficio
                                                          para ponentes)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span>de
                                                          1 a 4
                                                          ponencias
                                                          diarias con
                                                          una
                                                          retribuciön
                                                          para el que
                                                          hace la
                                                          investigación,
                                                          prepara y
                                                          presenta el
                                                          tema 
                                                          (sugerimos
                                                          $200.000 cada
                                                          una) con temas
                                                          como:</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=reHab"
target="_blank">#reHab</a></span><span> : proyecto de rehabilitación
                                                          vocacional (
                                                          un/loquer)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=SOSTech"
target="_blank">#SOSTech</a></span><span> : consultorio tecnológico para
                                                          artistas 
                                                          (brolin?)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=StackOverflow"
target="_blank">#StackOverflow</a></span><span> (sistemas de pregunta y
                                                          respuesta)
                                                          como modelo de
                                                          educación.(fede
                                                          y fabio?)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=co.operaciones"
target="_blank">#co.operaciones</a></span><span> Aprendizaje en la
                                                          relación
                                                          instituciones-colectivos
                                                          independientes
                                                          (camilo)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=udelosni%C3%B1os"
target="_blank">#udelosniños</a></span><span> la experiencia de elena en
                                                          la universidad
                                                          de los niños
                                                          (elmago)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=continenteContenido"
target="_blank">#continenteContenido</a></span><span> potencial de los
                                                          experimentos
                                                          con redes en
                                                          la educación</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=desCubrimientos"
target="_blank">#desCubrimientos</a></span><span> experimentos de
                                                          comunicación
                                                          (Maria
                                                          Juliana?)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=radioLibre"
target="_blank">#radioLibre</a></span><span> (alejo?)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=fanzine"
target="_blank">#fanzine</a></span><span> manuales estilo fanzine
                                                          (cheho?)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=chefKalash"
target="_blank">#chefKalash</a></span><span> temas variados y bizzaros
                                                          (kalash)</span></div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div
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                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">2013/5/25


                                                          Federico Lopez
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:federico1113@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">federico1113@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
                                                          <blockquote
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                                                          style="margin:0
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                                                          solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div
                                                          text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                                          <div> <br>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          05/24/2013
                                                          08:00 PM,
                                                          María Juliana
                                                          Yepes Burgos
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">¿Mayo

                                                          o junio? :P Me
                                                          gusta la idea,
                                                          sobre todo que
                                                          se junten los
                                                          temas y
                                                          parches que
                                                          mencionaste,
                                                          un lugar
                                                          común.
                                                           ¿Existe ya un
                                                          pirate pad o
                                                          algo para
                                                          empezar a
                                                          poner ideas de
                                                          programación?
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          En este
                                                          podemos
                                                          hacerle:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
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href="http://piratepad.net/virtuaeduca" target="_blank">http://piratepad.net/virtuaeduca</a> 
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Creemos que
                                                          podríamos
                                                          plantear dos
                                                          propuestas,
                                                          una sin costo
                                                          que sería mas
                                                          una muestra
                                                          instalación,
                                                          con una
                                                          máquina
                                                          mostrando los
                                                          websites,
                                                          libros,
                                                          videos,
                                                          timelines etc.
                                                          y otra donde
                                                          podamos
                                                          presupuestar
                                                          un beneficio
                                                          económico para
                                                          quienes
                                                          preparen una
                                                          actividad,
                                                          quizá $200mil
                                                          por 1 hora de
                                                          actividad  y
                                                          poner como 4
                                                          actividades
                                                          por día,
                                                          seguimos
                                                          discutiendo en
                                                          el pad.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          saludos, <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          fede.
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">El


                                                          24 de mayo de
                                                          2013 19:02,
                                                          Federico Lopez
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:federico1113@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">federico1113@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          escribió:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
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                                                          style="margin:0
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                                                          Hola,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                              un poco de
                                                          contexto para
                                                          los nuevos
                                                          incluidos en
                                                          el hilo:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          > Me llama
                                                          Jhon Correa,
                                                          esta
                                                          organizando
                                                          algo que tiene
                                                          que ver con
                                                          Virtual
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          > Educa ( <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.virtualeduca.org"
                                                          target="_blank">http://www.virtualeduca.org</a>
                                                          ),  Maria del
                                                          Rosario de
                                                          secretaría de<br>
                                                          > cultura
                                                          le sugirió que
                                                          contactara a
                                                          continenteContenido
                                                          y/o unloquer,
                                                          hoy<br>
                                                          > almuerzo
                                                          con él por los
                                                          lados de
                                                          Manila en el
                                                          poblado por si
                                                          Maria Juliana,<br>
                                                          > Brolin, o
                                                          Camilo quieren
                                                          parchar .. de
                                                          todas maneras
                                                          tomo nota y
                                                          les estaré<br>
                                                          > contando
                                                          para ver que
                                                          quieren y como
                                                          podemos
                                                          participar.<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Ya me reuní
                                                          con John
                                                          Correa, nos
                                                          ofrece un
                                                          espacio en el
                                                          evento donde
                                                          podemos estar
                                                          todos los 4
                                                          días del
                                                          evento (17,
                                                          18, 19, 20 de
                                                          mayo) y
                                                          programar los
                                                          temas que nos
                                                          interesen
                                                          sobre
                                                          educación,
                                                          básicamente es
                                                          como un
                                                          montaje
                                                          parecido al de
                                                          Manizales,
                                                          unas mesas,
                                                          nosotros
                                                          haciendo
                                                          nuestras cosas
                                                          y gente
                                                          pasando por
                                                          ahí y
                                                          preguntando/participando.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          La feria tiene
                                                          muchos
                                                          componentes de
                                                          educación
                                                          virtual de la
                                                          manera como la
                                                          ven las
                                                          universidades
                                                          y el gobierno,
                                                          a john le
                                                          pareció
                                                          fascinante
                                                          poder mostrar
                                                          otra faceta,
                                                          la manera como
                                                          nosotros vemos
                                                          la educación,
                                                          entonces es un
                                                          espacio para
                                                          hablar de
                                                          #reHab
                                                           #SOStech
                                                          #coopitecas,
                                                          #loDoyPorqueQuiero
                                                          #radioLibre
                                                          #platohedro
                                                          #morada
                                                          #laloli etc.
                                                           el espacio
                                                          queda
                                                          disponible y
                                                          quien quiera
                                                          preparar una
                                                          charla vamos a
                                                          hacer una
                                                          parrilla para
                                                          tener algo
                                                          como una
                                                          programación.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          En esa feria
                                                          circulará
                                                          gente de
                                                          varios países
                                                          interesados en
                                                          el tema de la
                                                          educación
                                                          contemporánea,
                                                          entonces,
                                                          Fabio, puede
                                                          ser una buena
                                                          vitrina para
                                                          conseguir
                                                          aliados en la
                                                          idea que se
                                                          esta gestando
                                                          en coopitecas.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Por el lado de
                                                          continenteContenido


                                                          Maria del
                                                          Rosario le
                                                          planteo a Jhon
                                                          el proyecto
                                                          como uno de
                                                          los proyectos
                                                          que secretaría
                                                          de educación
                                                          quisiera
                                                          mostrar a los
                                                          visitantes.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          En el tiempo
                                                          muerto (donde
                                                          nadie quiera
                                                          presentar nada
                                                          ) podemos
                                                          estar
                                                          trabajando,
                                                          conversando,
                                                           o podemos
                                                          dejar los
                                                          routers con
                                                          textos wifi y
                                                          un computador
                                                          conectado al
                                                          IRC o algo así
                                                          que represente
                                                          nuestra
                                                          presencia.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Ellos ponen
                                                          requerimientos
                                                          técnicos como
                                                          computadores,
                                                          wifi, puntos
                                                          de red, mesa
                                                          (le dije que
                                                          mesa para
                                                          aprox 6
                                                          personas).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Le pregunté si
                                                          podría existir
                                                          algún tipo de
                                                          retribución
                                                          para las
                                                          personas que
                                                          se quedaran
                                                          allí todo el
                                                          tiempo, me
                                                          dijo que no
                                                          estaba
                                                          contemplado,
                                                          que en caso
                                                          que nadie se
                                                          quedara, se
                                                          podría dejar
                                                          algún tipo de
                                                          elementos
                                                          representativos
                                                          de nuestras
                                                          ideas (como
                                                          escribí arriba
                                                          routers, IRC,
                                                          radiolibre
                                                          sonando, algo
                                                          así), pero hay
                                                          refrigerios.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Podemos ocupar
                                                          arquitectonicamente


                                                          el espacio que
                                                          nos asignen ..
                                                          "adornando"
                                                          las nubes que
                                                          usarán para
                                                          todo el
                                                          montaje .. con
                                                          nuestro orden.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          saludos,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          fede.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><font
                                                          face="'trebuchet


                                                          ms',
                                                          sans-serif">María


                                                          Juliana Yepes
                                                          Burgos<br>
                                                          Comunicación
                                                          Social -
                                                          Periodismo</font></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
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