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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/02/2014 01:35 PM, A. Aguirre
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        <div>Está complicada la prestada del manómetro de Bourdon por
          este lado.<br>
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        <div>Bacano si alguien más se lo puede conseguir.<br>
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        <div>Nos serviría uno manómetro que pueda medir de 0 a 30 psi.
          Nos sirve también si puede medir hasta 50 psi.<br>
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    no tengo manometro ..pero ..si el agua sube a la ducha del baño de
    arriba(que esta a nivel de unloquer y a nivel de la parte mas alta
    del muro)  de casa tres patios entonces la presión es suficiente.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">El 28 de abril de 2014, 11:12, Fabio
          Barone <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <div dir="ltr">Yo tb hablé con Andrés este sabado para
              aprovechar las paredes.
              <div>Creo que se transformaría ese lugar demasiado bonito.</div>
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              <div>En lugar de bombear el água para arriba, se me ocurre</div>
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                que habíamos hablado de aprovechar la lluvia...</div>
              <div><br>
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              <div>De pronto nos inventamos algo para eso que sirva
                para </div>
              <div>las paredes, mientras la válvula se destina para el
                riego</div>
              <div>del piso, no sé.</div>
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              <div>Igual baccano que averigües lo de la presión.</div>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">2014-04-28 10:36 GMT-05:00 A.
                Aguirre <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:aaguirr2@gmail.com" target="_blank">aaguirr2@gmail.com</a>></span>:
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                        <div>Buenas.                                                                   
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                              ¿Qué tal aprovechar la gran pared para
                              hacer un jardin vertical?  se pueden<br>
                              poner un sensor en cada hilera  .. y un
                              brazo o asensor en la salida del<br>
                              agua de manera que el sensor diga .. el
                              piso 4 esta seco..y el asensor suba<br>
                              al piso 4 y  riegue..así se puede
                              optimizar una sola valvula de paso. <br>
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                          A mi también me gusta la idea de aprovechar la
                          pared. En ese caso se hace<br>
                          todavía más necesario medir la presión en la
                          toma del patio, porque<br>
                          dependiendo de la altura, del material de la
                          manguera o tubería, de la<br>
                          longitud de los ramales y de los accesorios,
                          puede que el agua no pueda<br>
                          subir hasta ciertos puntos, y toque ayudarle
                          con una bomba. O de pronto, si<br>
                          es posible, utilizar una toma de arriba (no sé
                          si existe) para sacar la<br>
                          manguera desde el balcón, para no poner el
                          agua a subir y bajar.  <br>
                          <br>
                          Voy a tratar de conseguirme prestado un
                          manómetro esta semana para empezar<br>
                          a tirarle números a eso.<br>
                                                                                                    
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                          La idea del ascensor también me parece bacana
                          y llamativa (se debe ver muy<br>
                          bacano funcionando) pero ya sería un elemento
                          adicional al que tocaría<br>
                          estarle haciendo mantenimiento cada cierto
                          tiempo. Me parece mejor si el<br>
                          sistema puede quedar lo más desatendido
                          posible, no se qué piensen los<br>
                          demás.<br>
                          <br>
                          Ayer estuve mirando sistemas de riego por
                          goteo en youtube y en muchos ví<br>
                          que arman cajas y usan manguera de
                          polietileno.                            <br>
                                                                                                    
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                          Si armamos unas cajas de madera, o
                          reutilizamos algunas cajas de plástico, <br>
                          no nos tocaría llenar todo el patio de tierra
                          y compost, solo la cantidad  <br>
                          que necesitemos. Y las mismas cajas,
                          suficientemente espaciadas de la      <br>
                          pared, servirían como barrera física para no
                          generarle una humedad a la    <br>
                          pared. De pronto hasta nos ahorramos la
                          quitada de las piedras del patio.<br>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">El 28 de abril de 2014,
                          8:21, Federico Lopez <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                  código para un elevador miniatura <br>
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                                    <div>On 04/27/2014 04:55 PM, A.
                                      Aguirre wrote:<br>
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                                          <div>Buenas.<br>
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                                            planear que plantas se
                                            pueden poner en las
                                            condiciones<br>
                                            del lugar y la manguera para
                                            el riego.<br>
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                                          <div>Estoy de acuerdo en
                                            cuanto a mirar qué plantas
                                            se pueden poner.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Cuál sería la idea con la
                                            manguera, ¿un sistema de
                                            riego por goteo?<br>
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                                          <div class="gmail_quote">El 27
                                            de abril de 2014, 10:44,
                                            Fabio Barone <span
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                                              <div dir="ltr">pues para
                                                mi,
                                                <div>múltiples sensores
                                                  solo hacen sentido si
                                                  hay múltiples actores.</div>
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                                                <div> si tengo 4
                                                  sensores, y sólo una
                                                  válvula,</div>
                                                <div>que pasa si 2
                                                  sensores me dicen que
                                                  está seco y dos me
                                                  dicen que está húmedo?</div>
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                                                <div>igual se podría
                                                  pensar en alguna
                                                  lógica que abarca
                                                  esto.</div>
                                                <div><br>
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                                                <div>por ahora si
                                                  estarían plantas
                                                  "sólo" en el piso del
                                                  patio,</div>
                                                <div>como que las
                                                  condiciones parecen
                                                  muy similares para
                                                  todo el patio,</div>
                                                <div>será que un sólo
                                                  sensor no es
                                                  suficiente?</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>sin embargo,
                                                  pensando en cultivos
                                                  verticales en las
                                                  paredes,</div>
                                                <div>si se quisieran
                                                  hacer, de pronto
                                                  serían condiciones
                                                  diferentes,</div>
                                                <div>y justificarían más
                                                  sensores (por lo menos
                                                  uno mas).</div>
                                                <div><br>
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                                                <div>no se, sólo
                                                  pensamientos sin mucha
                                                  experiencia en todo
                                                  esto :)</div>
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                                                <div class="gmail_quote">2014-04-27
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                                                  kalashnikov <span
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                                                        se instalo la
                                                        valvula
                                                        electronica que
                                                        controlara el
                                                        paso de el<br>
                                                        agua por medio
                                                        de un arduino<br>
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                                                        seria empezar a
                                                        planear que
                                                        plantas se
                                                        pueden poner en
                                                        las condiciones<br>
                                                        del lugar y la
                                                        manguera para el
                                                        riego.<br>
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                                                        cuantos sensores
                                                        y donde ?<br>
                                                        etc ....<br>
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