[AktiviX-discuss] Request for email address
ana
ana at aktivix.org
Tue Jul 24 00:44:00 UTC 2007
Hi,
after some exploration, we realised that we need some one who can script
in either perl or python. Please do continue reading. (thanks in
advance, this is quite dense...)
Current situation with Outlook Express and one email address on a
corporate server that is getting fed up of their 3000-heavy mailouts ;-) :
at the moment the distibution of messages is done via an email group
address. there are 3,000 existing subscribers and 30 topics - but this
may be possible to narrow to 10, using the address book installed in
some one's outlook express – yuk - which they filter to send to
particular recipients.
In mailman, this can be done, according to the manual...
The topic filter categorizes each incoming email message according to
regular expression filters you specify below. If the message's Subject:
or Keywords: header contains a match against a topic filter, the message
is logically placed into a topic bucket. Each user can then choose to
only receive messages from the mailing list for a particular topic
bucket (or buckets). Any message not categorized in a topic bucket
registered with the user is not delivered to the list.
So, in mailman, the 'topics' are regular expressions that match against
the Subject and Keyword mail headers, or add a Keyword: something to the
start of each message
To get this option, it's a switch in the admin interface to turn the
facility on, then the subscribers get on their options page, one that
says, "Which topic categories would you like to subscribe to?"
Then mass subscribing 3,000 folks is a once only task for the list
admin, as is setting up the topics themselves. Now, mass subscribing
3000 folks is not hard, but allocating topics to those existing
subscribers can be.
(to complicate things, it turns out some of those topic are public and
some are very private, so the neat solution is to have two lists, one
private so that subscribers can choose the private topics and one public
so that they can choose the public topics, but this is not the most
complicated bit)
New subscribers would select the topics they wanted at subscription
time, right after subscription. But normally, as in "out of the box", it
would be the list admin that would make sure that the subscribers get
the emails they get manually, allocating the topics. automate
allocation, so that the admin does not have to do this with the 3000
initial subscribers plus whoever joins, needs scripting.
we would need perl scripters who can deal with:
http://search.cpan.org/dist/WWW-Mechanize/
or python scripters who can deal with:
http://wwwsearch.sourceforge.net/mechanize
to emulate a browser logging in and setting everything up.
so it would parse a text file of the form; subsciber topic_1 topic_7,
subscriber_2 topic_1 topic_6 topic_9 or somesuch
In summary: we need some one who can script in either perl or python,
otherwise, and/or in the meantime, the admin would need to do this for
them, accessing their options page - for each of the 3000+ subscribers
so...
the workflow seems to go like this...
1. set up list
2. define topics
3. mass subscibe
4. for each subscriber automate topic allocation using mechanize
mentioned above
Thanks in advance!
ana
Alan wrote:
> Hello again Aktivix peoples.
>
> Is there any chance I could investigate the possibilities of the Topics
> feature of aktivix lists? I guess that means getting a list and playing
> around with it.
>
> Would this be okay to do?
>
> I've been talking to other techies too about this and, for the mass
> mailing part, it just seems a mailing list is the thing to do. The
> initial problem we would have with a straight mailing list, is that we
> need to be able to send to numerous lists of people depending on their
> regions and requirements. On the mailman setup of riseup we would need
> to create and cross manage over 30 lists!
>
> This is why the topic feature you mentioned is particularly of interest
> to me.
>
> Still considering the other options - would aktivix be able to host an
> email address for us that has 3000 emails sent out in one go? I
> understand this is something we should pay for and if you can do it, can
> you let me know how much it costs so I can let the others know?
>
> Thankyou all
> Alan
>
>
> Alan wrote:
>
>> Thanks for checking this out, yes it is pretty urgent. Sorry for short
>> notice, Several members of the group will be away on holiday in August
>> and the email account and mailing list needs to be sorted by then so
>> that it can be handled by several people and away from their 'main'
>> computer.
>>
>> The topics feature sounds good, does the mailing list offer several
>> entry fields for subscribers that can be can be sorted through in the
>> admin interface? Is there somewhere that I can test it out to see how it
>> operates?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> ana wrote:
>>
>>
>>> paul wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> So it looks like either set up numerous mailing lists, or try to manage
>>>>>> with an email address
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> This would be my choice for you. Setting up mailing lists is easy. I think
>>>>> almost anybody in irc has the ability to do it for you. And the lists server
>>>>> is much better specced than the mailbox machine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It might be possible to use Mailman's topic feature to avoid setting up multiple lists.
>>>> http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node31.html
>>>>
>>>> paul m
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Do you want to try and do that before we actually go and create the list/s?
>>>
>>> Let us know ... because this seems quite urgent.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> ana
>>>
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