[AktiviX-discuss] using ssl with a mac client ('mail')

[ana]

Yes,

actually, I now remember that this was my set up with a previous ISP i
had! they didn't allow secure ssl or tls for smtp so this is exactly
what i did. i now have a more "standard" set up.

i wouldn't remember how to set it up again tho ... best thing would be
to ask on irc :)

ana

mp wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I use an SSH tunnel to springnight and then set my SMTP to be localhost.
> This works well, since it works from anywhere and all communication is
> encrypted until it reaches springnight. Thanks to gdm for helping me
> with that, when I was on a network that didn't allow email sending, but
> did allow ssh.
>
> I am sure this would work well for MAC as well, if only maqui's account
> allows ssh login.
>
> It is really quite simply to set up.
>
> mp
>
> Ian Gregory wrote:
>   
>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 01:38:07AM +0100, ana wrote:
>>     
>>> (including maqui because i'm not sure if he's subscribed to this list)
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Ian Gregory wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 08:44:50PM +0100, maqui wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Basically I'm using a mac client for my mails called 'mail'. In the 
>>>>> preferences i got ssl ticked for incoming mail using port 995 and it 
>>>>> works to receive mails. But in the outgoing preferences if i select 
>>>>> 'springnight.burngreave.net' as the outgoing mail server, then it only 
>>>>> works (i can send and receive mails) if i do it between aktivix 
>>>>> addresses, but if i send to non aktivix addresses, then it doesn't work 
>>>>> and it says that an "error occurred".
>>>>>           
>>>> And a good thing too, otherwise springnight would soon be blacklisted as 
>>>> an open relay. Springnight only accepts email to email addresses it is 
>>>> responsible for, like aktivix ones. It might handle authenticated SMTP, 
>>>> in which case if you want to use it for your outgoing server you will 
>>>> need to configure your system to authenticate with an authorised 
>>>> username and password.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Hang on there - maqi has got an authorised username and password!
>>>       
>> Well obviously he has one for reading email sent to him at his aktivix 
>> account. I don't know whether springnight supports authenticated SMTP 
>> for sending email or (assuming it does) whether aktivix email 
>> username/password pairs are valid for authenticating, or whether maqi 
>> has configured Mail to use authenticated SMTP for outgoing mail. These 
>> could all possibly be reasons why he gets an error when trying to send.
>> Of course it could be something else entirely that I have not thought 
>> of.
>>
>> I send all my email out through my ISP. That means I don't need to 
>> authenticate, which means that I transmit no username/password to the 
>> SMTP server, which means I don't need to use SSL to protect a 
>> username/password. Admittedly my ISP could be storing/monitoring my 
>> email, but if anything needs to be secret I use GnuPG for strong 
>> end-to-end encryption so that does not really concern me.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>     
>
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