[alt-media-res] Fw: [transmission-discuss]finalisingmetadata standard - please

Wed Mar 28 14:46:27 BST 2007

hi all
am not sensing a great deal of enthusiasm for this, so, what with my having
got in touch with the schnews people suggesting a link up at some of this
group's behest, do i now have your agreement to get back to them saying ok
let's forget it and sorry to waste your time?
in which case would be interested to know what alternative ideas people have
for organising a puiblic event, if any. personally I feel by now that won't
be making any more efforts on that front until it is clear that others have
clear decision and initiative to act.
cheers now
xz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Boehm, Steffen" <steffen at essex.ac.uk>
To: "zoe" <zoe at esemplastic.net>; "Andre Spicer" <Andre.Spicer at wbs.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:49 PM
Subject: RE: [alt-media-res] Fw: [transmission-discuss]finalisingmetadata
standard - please

I must say that I'm not hugely excited about doing the brighton event... But
maybe this is because I don't know enough about it, and don't know enough
about how we might fit in there...
Would be good to skype on this...

-----Original Message-----
From: zoe [mailto:zoe at esemplastic.net]
Sent: 24 March 2007 11:55
To: Andre Spicer
Cc: Boehm, Steffen
Subject: Re: [alt-media-res] Fw: [transmission-discuss]finalisingmetadata
standard - please

hiya
first things I think would be to decide
1. what space and format of session would be offered by our crew and 2.
(shaping that) what we feel we have to offer personally I don't think
traditional kinds of 'presentation' would be the thing, rather to hold a
space where we and others can participatorily share more structural and
theoretical perspectives on the processes of creating and networking
alt-media. a suggestion for a way forward: you two work together to devise a
basic set of findings and theories you might feel ready to share, then I'll
have a go at seeing if the language and framework will fit into the likely
culture and goals of the get together. some other things - the cowley club
is not huge, and the event will include people with attitudes of all kinds,
including several who will be aware of the issues that came up with startx
etc., and potentially suspicious of you/us. so we need to think about how to
defuse any potential for derailing the session without getting completely
away from the point in fear of others' issues! and then, do you def want to
go ahead with this connection rather than having a stand alone event of our
own as originally planned? also ben at rampart in whitechapel is thinking of
hosting a mini imc gathering the weekend of 18th may, which could be another
thing to hook into.... xxx

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andre Spicer" <Andre.Spicer at wbs.ac.uk>
To: <zoe at esemplastic.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [alt-media-res] Fw: [transmission-discuss]finalisingmetadata
standard - please

ok, any particular points we sould start with?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
André Spicer
Industrial Relations and Organisational Behaviour
Warwick Business School
University of Warwick
Coventry CV4 7AL
United Kingdom

Andre.Spicer at wbs.ac.uk
+44 (0)24 7652 4513
http://andre.spicer.googlepages.com/home
>>> "zoe" <zoe at esemplastic.net> 03/24/07 10:59 AM >>>
hiya
am happy to help out on this..
xx

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andre Spicer" <Andre.Spicer at wbs.ac.uk>
To: <zoe at esemplastic.net>
Cc: <steffen at essex.ac.uk>
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [alt-media-res] Fw: [transmission-discuss] finalisingmetadata
standard - please

Hi

Steff - is it possible we could talk on monday and work out some kind of
thing for schnews event - I assume we need a page or so of text saying what
we want to do

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
André Spicer
Industrial Relations and Organisational Behaviour
Warwick Business School
University of Warwick
Coventry CV4 7AL
United Kingdom

Andre.Spicer at wbs.ac.uk
+44 (0)24 7652 4513
http://andre.spicer.googlepages.com/home
>>> "zoe" <zoe at esemplastic.net> 03/22/07 11:11 PM >>>
below, an impatient mail i just sent out to tx network.
here, a link to And's latest blog, which is nice:
http://www.transmission.cc/node/86
and finally a reminder, we really ought to get back on to the schnews people
soon........ have a great trip pen! zxx

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "zoe" <zoe at esemplastic.net>
To: <metadata at transmission.cc>; <discuss at transmission.cc>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:01 PM
Subject: [transmission-discuss] finalising metadata standard - please

> hi everyone
>
> well
> as you know we have a  lovely draft transmission metadata standard to
enable
> cross-visibility between our projects, it can be viewed on our tip top
> transmission wiki. the highly valuable comments received on the draft
> standard can also be viewed there.
> http://wiki.transmission.cc/index.php/Metadata_Workspace
>
> now
> we have evolved to a situation where engagemedia are nearly ready to
> implement the standard in their plone package; the new drupal module
also
> needs to set some standard metadata for example for the new forms for
> ifiwatch.tv. exequo can implement the standar across the projects they
host,
> any more for any more??
> clearly, the time is ripe for working implementation.
>
> but
> we have a small blockage. the feedback received to date has not been
> integrated into the proposal, so that our standard is not yet in as
good a
> shape as our collective intelligence can - and should - still make it.
>
> so
> before we adopt it into plone and drupal CMS, we need someone/people
with
> the right kind of brain to read through and incorporate the comments
> received so far, to host some discussions and to engage in some
arguments
if
> necessary to find a constructive way between conflicting suggestions,
and
> then say
>
> OK- HERE IT IS, NOW GO FOR IT!!
> LET US IMPLEMENT AND TEST IN PRACTICE!!!! GO FORTH AND MULTIPLY YOUR
MEDIA
> : )
>
> it's clear that this is hard brain work, and it is right that people
should
> be paid for hard work. however, surely it is not right that the
potential
of
> this network is sliding away, while we simply sit and wait for various
> funding bids trickle through their processes ... ? after all, who is
> in charge of the time table here? us, or the managers of capitalist
> surplus in the big foundations out
there?
>
> hmm.
> I'll end with a call
> for someone, part of the network or not, desperate to be paid or not,
> working alone or with others, to engage with the draft standard as
soon as
> possible and make sure it is workable, implementable now, when it's
needed.
>
> maybe some of the projects that will use and benefit from the standard
can
> club together to pay this person/people, maybe some dedicated funding
come
> through somewhere soon and the person can be back paid later, maybe
they
> will just get> meal and a half - so, who's up for it? anyone got a
> likely
mate?
>
> lots of love and mild impatience
>
> zoe in london
>
> (your so called metadata working group co-ordinator)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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