[blag-whereto] shutdown/removal of blag vm
tristan
pinmaritim at riseup.net
Sun Sep 22 16:04:34 UTC 2013
thank you so much Jason...
a bit of light there..
are you actually maintaining the forum?
who decides?
i joined recently and miss the info..
but Blag is worth it..
Alexandre Oliva is the developer?
what help or involvement coming from the gnu-org or fsf?
does the project need some sort of financial help?
lots of questions..
MERCI ENCORE
Le 22/09/2013 17:42, Jason a écrit :
> I will continue to host the BLAG forums and pay for the domain name
> forever if you guys want.
>
> On 22/09/2013 13:46, tristan wrote:
>> Bonjour A Tous
>>
>> Blag 140k is simply a great""piece of Art"..i don't understand;you seem
>> to have no support from the FSF & Gnu-org.
>> Why?
>> Is gNewSense pulling all the cover?i tried the latest released,not
>> only the installation failed but on the 'Live Cd' it made me think
>> of a php Webpage...!!2.3 was nicer but no comparaison to..BLAG
>> 140k,which as i wrote earlier i have deddicated to an external hard
>> disc.(still super fast..)
>> what can we do ?as average users with no technical knowledge;
>> is it a question of finance?
>> or of mainteneers&developpers?servers?
>>
>> the main difference with all the flashy codec(x) fancy button distros
>> is that there is a philosophy behind it....
>> if Blag dissapears i would be very unhappy with the Gnu-org
>> & the Fsf,considering that they have not defended such a great project.
>>
>> merci en tous les cas a tous.
>> amicalement tristan.
>>
>> Le 22/09/2013 14:11, Unknown a écrit :
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I too would like to see the servers continue, because some people are
>>> leaving I don't see why they think they are the only one who needed it.
>>>
>>> Please, Please continue to maintain the servers, website and forum for
>>> us poor blaggers who still and always will use blag.
>>>
>>> I am still using Blag 140K it works perfect and do all that the new
>>> bells and whistle OS do and some that they cannot do. Yes I am running
>>> kernel 3.11.1 and I do all the necessary security updates.
>>>
>>> Blag is still needed and used by us simple blaggers who understand that
>>> a great OS don't have to be the latest must have.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Weyasey
>>>
>>> On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 00:10 +0200, robert wrote:
>>>> Hi all!
>>>> Would very much like to keep the server and the forum going. Don't
>>>> have
>>>> the technical skill to upgrade the server by myself, but willing to
>>>> help
>>>> in any way i can. Also, i can take resposibility for maintaining the
>>>> forum if Junichirô and you all wish - but if so, i'll need admin
>>>> access.
>>>>
>>>> Even with good intentions, my work for BLAG over the last couple of
>>>> years has been limited to maintaining the icons and some simple
>>>> themes.
>>>> I've made a few (pathetic) attempts at spinning a new BLAG version,
>>>> and
>>>> i'll probably try again - but can't promise any big success on my own.
>>>>
>>>> So - if you are reading this and feel just a little bit motivated:
>>>> Let's
>>>> have another go at keeping BLAG alive!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> robert (veganix)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> fr., 20.09.2013 kl. 11.51 -0500, skrevvladimirpunk at radiomexico.com:
>>>>> I hope somebody else answear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only has passed 2 years since the last blag version, I don't see why
>>>>> we could think is not going up again, at the forum recently a new
>>>>> user
>>>>> reported to be comfortable using blag 140k and especting a new one.
>>>>> There are persons interesed in the project, I proposse give it more
>>>>> time and make an effort to share the project with more people. I'm
>>>>> sure more than one would be happy with a new blag distribution (even,
>>>>> I would say, some part of the dissapointed fedora comunity coud come
>>>>> with us).
>>>>> If it counts, I'm still interested in a new blag version, I'll
>>>>> do my
>>>>> best to keep it up again. If there is anybody else interested please
>>>>> answear, if no I understand if you want to close the site.
>>>>> Vladimir
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Mensaje original -----
>>>>> De:
>>>>> Alexandre Oliva<lxoliva at fsfla.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Para:
>>>>> "Ward Vandewege"<ward at fsf.org>
>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>
>>>>> Enviado:
>>>>> Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:16:57 -0300
>>>>> Asunto:
>>>>> Re: [blag-whereto] shutdown/removal of blag vm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [adding the blag list]
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Ward,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2013, Ward Vandewege wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > RMS mentioned that you'd like to shut down the blag VM.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not so much that I'd like to; quite the opposite. I
>>>>> just
>>>>> told him
>>>>> what the status was and asked for help in enlisting
>>>>> volunteers
>>>>> to bring
>>>>> it back to life, because it would be very useful for me if
>>>>> BLAG carried
>>>>> on, but I can't undertake the effort of maintaining it by
>>>>> myself :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that I don't think it's responsible to
>>>>> keep an
>>>>> unmaintained server connected to the Internet without
>>>>> security
>>>>> updates
>>>>> for so long, and since I'm the person who requested the
>>>>> VM and
>>>>> signed up
>>>>> as responsible for it, I must live up to the responsibility
>>>>> and do
>>>>> something about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> BLAG has not had updates or new releases for a couple of
>>>>> years, if not
>>>>> more, and I don't know that anyone has been working on such
>>>>> things; I'm
>>>>> told by other blag maintainers that by now users and
>>>>> developers have
>>>>> moved on to other distros, or to Fedora with the Freed-ora
>>>>> builds of GNU
>>>>> Linux-libre, and BLAG is dead :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> So, this email should be taken as a call for volunteers
>>>>> who'd
>>>>> like to
>>>>> organize and take over its maintainership, so as to stop us
>>>>> from
>>>>> bringing the unmaintained server down.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another possibility, in case there's still a community using
>>>>> the forum,
>>>>> the server, whatever, is to upgrade the server to Fedora 19,
>>>>> minus the
>>>>> proprietary server in it, and the Freed-ora kernel. Of
>>>>> course,
>>>>> it
>>>>> wouldn't make sense to undertake that effort if it
>>>>> wouldn't be
>>>>> used.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Is there any data on the VM that you would like to
>>>>> preserve?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for asking. I have my own backups of the server, that
>>>>> I'll
>>>>> probably keep around for a while, but others might want to
>>>>> copy
>>>>> something out too.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, this email may also be regarded as a chance for
>>>>> people who
>>>>> want to
>>>>> copy stuff out of the server to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> 8~-(
>>>>>
>>>>> How about we tentatively schedule the blag server
>>>>> shutdown to
>>>>> the end of
>>>>> the month? Barring signs that the, erhm, patient is not
>>>>> dead,
>>>>> of course
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alexandre Oliva, freedom fighterhttp://FSFLA.org/~lxoliva/
>>>>> You must be the change you wish to see in the world. --
>>>>> Gandhi
>>>>> Be Free! --http://FSFLA.org/ FSF Latin America board member
>>>>> Free Software Evangelist Red Hat Brazil Compiler Engineer
>>>>>
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