[blag-whereto] shutdown/removal of blag vm

Jason jason at craftstream.com
Sun Sep 22 15:42:06 UTC 2013


I will continue to host the BLAG forums and pay for the domain name 
forever if you guys want.

On 22/09/2013 13:46, tristan wrote:
> Bonjour A Tous
>
> Blag 140k is simply a great""piece of Art"..i don't understand;you seem
> to have no support from the FSF & Gnu-org.
> Why?
> Is gNewSense pulling all the cover?i tried the latest released,not
> only the installation failed but on the 'Live Cd' it made me think
> of a php Webpage...!!2.3 was nicer but no comparaison to..BLAG
> 140k,which as i wrote earlier i have deddicated to an external hard
> disc.(still super fast..)
> what can we do ?as average users with no technical knowledge;
> is it a question of finance?
> or of mainteneers&developpers?servers?
>
> the main difference with all the flashy codec(x) fancy button distros
> is that there is a philosophy behind it....
> if Blag dissapears i would be very unhappy with the Gnu-org
> & the Fsf,considering that they have not defended such a great project.
>
> merci en tous les cas a tous.
> amicalement tristan.
>
> Le 22/09/2013 14:11, Unknown a écrit :
>> Hi All
>>
>> I too would like to see the servers continue, because some people are
>> leaving I don't see why they think they are the only one who needed it.
>>
>> Please, Please continue to maintain the servers, website and forum for
>> us poor blaggers who still and always will use blag.
>>
>> I am still using Blag 140K it works perfect and do all that the new
>> bells and whistle OS do and some that they cannot do. Yes I am running
>> kernel 3.11.1 and I do all the necessary security updates.
>>
>> Blag is still needed and used by us simple blaggers who understand that
>> a great OS don't have to be the latest must have.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Weyasey
>>
>> On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 00:10 +0200, robert wrote:
>>> Hi all!
>>> Would very much like to keep the server and the forum going. Don't have
>>> the technical skill to upgrade the server by myself, but willing to help
>>> in any way i can. Also, i can take resposibility for maintaining the
>>> forum if Junichirô and you all wish - but if so, i'll need admin access.
>>>
>>> Even with good intentions, my work for BLAG over the last couple of
>>> years has been limited to maintaining the icons and some simple themes.
>>> I've made a few (pathetic) attempts at spinning a new BLAG version, and
>>> i'll probably try again - but can't promise any big success on my own.
>>>
>>> So - if you are reading this and feel just a little bit motivated: Let's
>>> have another go at keeping BLAG alive!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> robert (veganix)
>>>
>>>
>>> fr., 20.09.2013 kl. 11.51 -0500, skrevvladimirpunk at radiomexico.com:
>>>> I hope somebody else answear.
>>>>
>>>> Only has passed 2 years since the last blag version, I don't see why
>>>> we could think is not going up again, at the forum recently a new user
>>>> reported to be comfortable using blag 140k and especting a new one.
>>>> There are persons interesed in the project, I proposse give it more
>>>> time and make an effort to share the project with more people. I'm
>>>> sure more than one would be happy with a new blag distribution (even,
>>>> I would say, some part of the dissapointed fedora comunity coud come
>>>> with us).
>>>>    If it counts, I'm still interested in a new blag version, I'll do my
>>>> best to keep it up  again. If there is anybody else interested please
>>>> answear, if no I understand if you want to close the site.
>>>>       Vladimir
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          ----- Mensaje original -----
>>>>          De:
>>>>          Alexandre Oliva<lxoliva at fsfla.org>
>>>>
>>>>          Para:
>>>>          "Ward Vandewege"<ward at fsf.org>
>>>>          Cc:
>>>>
>>>>          Enviado:
>>>>          Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:16:57 -0300
>>>>          Asunto:
>>>>          Re: [blag-whereto] shutdown/removal of blag vm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          [adding the blag list]
>>>>
>>>>          Hi, Ward,
>>>>
>>>>          On Sep 17, 2013, Ward Vandewege wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          > RMS mentioned that you'd like to shut down the blag VM.
>>>>
>>>>          It's not so much that I'd like to; quite the opposite. I just
>>>>          told him
>>>>          what the status was and asked for help in enlisting volunteers
>>>>          to bring
>>>>          it back to life, because it would be very useful for me if
>>>>          BLAG carried
>>>>          on, but I can't undertake the effort of maintaining it by
>>>>          myself :-(
>>>>
>>>>          The problem is that I don't think it's responsible to keep an
>>>>          unmaintained server connected to the Internet without security
>>>>          updates
>>>>          for so long, and since I'm the person who requested the VM and
>>>>          signed up
>>>>          as responsible for it, I must live up to the responsibility
>>>>          and do
>>>>          something about it.
>>>>
>>>>          BLAG has not had updates or new releases for a couple of
>>>>          years, if not
>>>>          more, and I don't know that anyone has been working on such
>>>>          things; I'm
>>>>          told by other blag maintainers that by now users and
>>>>          developers have
>>>>          moved on to other distros, or to Fedora with the Freed-ora
>>>>          builds of GNU
>>>>          Linux-libre, and BLAG is dead :-(
>>>>
>>>>          So, this email should be taken as a call for volunteers who'd
>>>>          like to
>>>>          organize and take over its maintainership, so as to stop us
>>>>          from
>>>>          bringing the unmaintained server down.
>>>>
>>>>          Another possibility, in case there's still a community using
>>>>          the forum,
>>>>          the server, whatever, is to upgrade the server to Fedora 19,
>>>>          minus the
>>>>          proprietary server in it, and the Freed-ora kernel. Of course,
>>>>          it
>>>>          wouldn't make sense to undertake that effort if it wouldn't be
>>>>          used.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          > Is there any data on the VM that you would like to preserve?
>>>>
>>>>          Thanks for asking. I have my own backups of the server, that
>>>>          I'll
>>>>          probably keep around for a while, but others might want to
>>>>          copy
>>>>          something out too.
>>>>
>>>>          So, this email may also be regarded as a chance for people who
>>>>          want to
>>>>          copy stuff out of the server to do so.
>>>>
>>>>          8~-(
>>>>
>>>>          How about we tentatively schedule the blag server shutdown to
>>>>          the end of
>>>>          the month? Barring signs that the, erhm, patient is not dead,
>>>>          of course
>>>>          ;-)
>>>>
>>>>          Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>          --
>>>>          Alexandre Oliva, freedom fighterhttp://FSFLA.org/~lxoliva/
>>>>          You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Gandhi
>>>>          Be Free! --http://FSFLA.org/  FSF Latin America board member
>>>>          Free Software Evangelist Red Hat Brazil Compiler Engineer
>>>>
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