[Campaignforrealdemocracy] Last Night's Meeting

Dave Mellows dave.mellows at virgin.net
Thu Jun 11 13:09:26 BST 2009


I am not sure we did get consensus on C) and D), but I think they are really
important.

I am going to be away for two weeks now, and am not sure I will be able to
access emails.

Dave


On 10/6/09 22:42, "james holland" <james at dogmanet.org> wrote:

> 
> lots of stuff here but i just sent a rather short draft statement that i
> think we should develop for starters?
> 
> 
> 
> James Holland
> 
> http://risingclevel.blogspot.com/
> 
> Mark Barrett wrote:
>> Hi everyone who was there last night (monday at RFH) and to the 4
>> apologees. And my apologies in turn for not having finished the
>> minutes yet. Won't be able to finish them til tomorrow eve
>> at earliest, or Thurs AM.
>>  
>> In lieu of that, here, I think, are the action points we more or less
>> agreed.
>>  
>> Pls can people comment on them in the next 24 hours?
>>  
>> Cheers
>> Mark
>>  
>>  
>> *CRD Draft Action Points of Consensus*
>>  
>> (1) To support one or more local community struggles in London, and
>> where possible help them develop towards the self-governing 'real
>> democracy' / local sovereignty project we've been considering, and in a
>> way that suits them. To offer info, skills to share and connections with
>> other local/democratic community groups in London and elsewhere
>>  
>> (2) To suggest to each other struggles that can be supported in this way
>> so we can begin to map, and connect ourselves up with local groups and,
>> ideally also connect local groups to each other, in practical solidarity
>>  
>> (3) To invite groups and individuals concerned about democratic
>> community to form a properly constituted, initiallly as a
>> Localists' Union, (but not limited to that - see E below), union
>> with simple, initial basic campaign aims of:
>>  
>> (A) building trust in the idea of community, and in a
>> different, emancipatory way of organising society
>>  
>> demanding and doing united actions in support of:
>> (B) a community building in every neighbourhood to be run by those
>> around it
>> (C) pieces of land in and around cities to be ring fenced for new,
>> intentional democratic communities to be created
>>  
>> and (D) a commitment to keep relentlessly under consideration key
>> questions about structure, eg about what kind of tax system, and other
>> structural changes will be necessary to suport a really democratic,
>> community based  society
>>  
>> and finally (E) recognising the struggle for real democracty is not
>> *just *about localism, but that there are many other types of community
>> that could and should be democratic, but local is where people actually
>> live and work, so it is the right place to start  building a
>> society governed on different lines to the one we have now. But also we
>> are for the right to organise more widely than that, in workplaces,
>> places of study, prisons, hospitals - participation not false
>> representation! 
>>  
>> [folks we definitely got consensus on  A and B and i think also E but
>> what about C and D? I'll need to include this in the Minutes - and in
>> the invite to the next meeting - in some way, so please can people give
>> me feeling on these points? C was already agreed in prev discussions on
>> Local Sovereignty concept but we didn't go into it in detail last night.
>> And (D) covers our talks about tax, local parliaments, banks, job
>> centres etc. Phrased in this way, seems uncontroversial and reflective
>> of our discussion last night?
>> (4) To arrange a meeting in the next month to take this agenda further
>> forward [ I have already got started on this ]
>> (5) to invite all our nice colleagues / friends and people of like mind
>> in the wider network to get involved
>> (6) to consider coming to the picnic on Aug 15th and telling people
>> about it, and
>> (7) the possibilty of a Winter Right to the City Conference.
>>  
>> Make sense as a 1st draft / summary ?
>>  
>> Obviously I will have to condense all this down but thought it a good
>> idea to run the rough draft past you first to see if I'm missing
>> anything important.
>>  
>> Mark   
>>  
>> PS found this on Flickr
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/chelmsfordblue/3574699495/in/set-721576188654794
>> 03
>> Got photos too, of us in front of the plasticine paradise from my phone
>> camera, do people want me to send them (they are not tiny files, but not
>> gargantuan either, but after all the fuss with my phone they are really
>> rather nice!!)  
>>  
>>  
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