[Campaignforrealdemocracy] P Square, 5 p.m. Nelson Mandela corner
Elizabeth Power
power1931 at googlemail.com
Wed Aug 10 08:11:55 UTC 2011
We will be meeting at Parliament Square 5 p.m., then some of us will be
heading to this event in Deptford/New Cross. Welcome to join up if you want
to go together. There is a fairly long march and an assembly called.
http://www.peoplesassemblies.org/2011/08/peoples-assembly-in-deptford-march-wed-10th/
Camilla
On 9 August 2011 23:26, Elizabeth Power <power1931 at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Victor
>
> I perfectly understand.
>
> Some of us will definitely be meeting at P Square, 5 p.m. at nelson mandela
> corner, where we can simply meet and discuss till around 6.30/7ish.
>
> Any of the 15M assembly people who'd like to come are also welcome, and
> then people who want can go over to your one at RFH too.
>
> Camilla
>
> 2011/8/9 Víctor Olmos García <vicolm5 at hotmail.com>
>
>> It´s more a matter of organisation than enthusiasm or insecurity. I
>> thought you were asking for the 15M assembly to be moved, and it´s just too
>> short notice. If it´s some other sort of meeting/protest, that´s fine. I
>> don´t see too much trouble taking place in parliament square anyway, not the
>> most deprived of boroughs in London. It was also discussed and agreed as
>> location in the last meeting we had on Saturday, so, as Veronica pointed
>> out, it´d be a bit difficult to change. Your point about going back home at
>> night is a valid one though, but, as I said, it´s just not be adequate to
>> change it at such short notice.
>>
>> For the 15M, the assembly at the Spanish embassy would be a more obvious
>> meeting location in terms of symbolism; the thing about London is that it
>> rains, frequently, sometimes unexpectedly, so the RFH was a more practical
>> option (interim as everything is and by no means unchangeable) at the time.
>> That time was sadly the beggining of the summer.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:37:41 +0100
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] Wed Assembly
>> From: power1931 at googlemail.com
>> To: hugocologico at gmail.com
>> CC: strikersassembly at googlegroups.com; sshummo at hotmail.com;
>> democracyvillage at googlegroups.com;
>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com;
>> campaignforrealdemocracy at lists.aktivix.org
>>
>>
>> If there is not enthusiasm for trying to assemble on P Square, then I will
>> not call it...but a message has gone out from Phoenix I believe (or via
>> Phoenix), so some people may go to the Square. I do not know who decided on
>> that.
>>
>> My thought was that this is a good time to be bold and central in a lawful
>> and peaceful way, plus the police are far too busy! Plus we should show
>> political will to demonstrate the illegitimacy of the government that is
>> hated and detested. People who feel insecure about coming there, I
>> understand. but I think there is no difference in risk between being at P Sq
>> (from 5ish to 7) compared to the 15M situation at RFH (which s proposed for
>> later in the evening and therefore people would be going back after dark,
>> which is riskier). As usual, P Sq has far more symbolic resonance, whereas
>> the point of coming to Festival Hall is less obvious.
>>
>> I have not messaged out the facebook groups at this stage, and do not see
>> anyone has. There seems too much confusion. WE may go to the square to
>> discuss the situation with whoever turns up, and work out a better plan.
>>
>> On 9 August 2011 17:54, Hugo de Armas Estevez <hugocologico at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> I am agree with Victor. We can talk about the situation much better at the
>> Royal Festival Hall. It is a quiet, safe and well connected place to meet.
>> Maybe, we may talk to do something this weekend in any affected borough, if
>> we'd have a "safety place" to do it of course.
>>
>> We have to be very cautious, with 16000 police force in London, the
>> capital looks more a second world war city than the XXI London. The
>> situation is out of control, so this is a fantastic excuse for any
>> government to do whatever.
>>
>> See you tomorrow
>>
>> Hugo
>> 2011/8/9 Mark Barrett <marknbarrett at googlemail.com>
>>
>> I heard some people are calling a People's Assembly for tomorrow in
>> Parliament Square, for 5pm ? Pls confirm where this will take place as the
>> fences are still up as far as I know. Also, fyi: the next (weekly)
>> Spanish Revolution 15M London assembly will be on Wednesday, 7.30 at the
>> Royal Festival Hall, 4th floor, blue zone.
>>
>> On 9 August 2011 15:35, Sammy Shummo <sshummo at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Parliament Square sounds great. What time?
>> Sammy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elizabeth Power <power1931 at googlemail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 14:28:59
>> To: <strikersassembly at googlegroups.com>
>> Cc: <democracyvillage at googlegroups.com>; <
>> campaignforrealdemocracy at lists.aktivix.org>; <
>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] Wed Assembly
>>
>> HI
>>
>>
>> what do people think of taking Assembly to Parliament Square this Weds,
>> tomorrow?
>>
>>
>> Camilla
>>
>>
>> On 9 August 2011 01:07, Mark Barrett <marknbarrett at googlemail.com<mailto:
>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com> > wrote:
>> PS this looks like becoming a trend. could be a great way to get 15m
>> going in london: "Start something! Get Twitter to bring sensible people to
>> affected areas on, say, Thursday. Call it #riotcleanup <
>> http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23riotcleanup> "
>>
>>
>> let's get it trending ..
>>
>> love
>> mark
>>
>>
>> On 9 August 2011 00:26, <marknbarrett at googlemail.com <mailto:
>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com> > wrote:
>> Hi Hugo! Agree with you and Andy - would be great to discuss. I'd propose
>> as possibilities for discussion 1 convening an end of aug open planning
>> meeting to prepare for oct 15 mobilisation 2 campaigning for local
>> assemblies in context / response to riots and 3 preparing a flier for oct 15
>> across london. Just a few ideas what do others think ? Love Mark
>> ----------------
>>
>> From: Hugo de Armas Estevez <hugocologico at gmail.com <mailto:
>> hugocologico at gmail.com> >
>> Sender: trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>
>> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:38:54 +0100
>> To: <trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com> >
>> ReplyTo: trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>
>> Subject: Re: Re : Fwd: Today's Assembly
>>
>>
>> Yes that's a fantastic movement! We have to go straight ahead to
>> Tottenham, Maybe we have to discuss this in the next assembly this Wednesday
>> in the 15M assembly.
>>
>> See you around
>>
>> Hugo
>>
>>
>> 2011/8/8 pilar . <pcano78 at hotmail.com <mailto:pcano78 at hotmail.com> >
>>
>>
>>
>> Brilliant guys! well done. I am glad you went to Tottenham, would have
>> loved to be there but unfortunately I am in Barcelona.
>>
>> Lots of love and carry on!
>>
>> pilar
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------
>> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 03:24:39 -0700
>> From: bastosjuliaborges at yahoo.com.br <mailto:
>> bastosjuliaborges at yahoo.com.br>
>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: Re : Fwd: Today's Assembly
>>
>>
>>
>> To: trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>> This experience was really important! Congratulations to everbody. I agree
>> with Mark, the local contacts are necessary to the comunite start organize
>> and tothenam can be a good place for the local assembly, let me know what do
>> you think?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> See you,
>>
>> Júlia Borges
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/08/2011, at 23:52, marknbarrett at googlemail.com <mailto:
>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Sofia - we had a good experience in Tottenham today, and we hope to
>> review what happened and discuss next steps here very soon. In brief, our
>> low key assembly was joined by quite a few people from the local area, and
>> for a while a good discussion took place. Contacts were made, and I think
>> the plan is to return to the area very soon, more later Love and Solidarity
>> - onwards the 15M! Mark
>> ----------------
>>
>> From: sofia sofia <sofiazissi at hotmail.com <mailto:sofiazissi at hotmail.com>
>> >
>> Sender: trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>
>> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 20:03:39 +0000
>> To: <trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com> >
>> ReplyTo: trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>
>> Subject: RE: Re : Fwd: Today's Assembly
>>
>>
>> I see you guys went to Tottenham... Please let us know what you decided
>> for next meeting!
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------
>> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 13:43:50 +0100
>> Subject: Re: Re : Fwd: Today's Assembly
>> From: <mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com> marknbarrett at googlemail.com<mailto:
>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com>
>> To: <mailto:trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>>
>>
>> Yes i think we can't move the assembly but some of us are going to meet at
>> seven sisters tube and go talk to people, maybe they would like to set up
>> an assembly there in the future (as you suggest) and/or start a mobilisation
>> for oct15th.
>>
>> anyway, let's see what happens....
>>
>> love and soldarity
>>
>> mark
>>
>>
>> On 7 August 2011 13:39, sofia sofia < <mailto:sofiazissi at hotmail.com>
>> sofiazissi at hotmail.com <mailto:sofiazissi at hotmail.com> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> this is great but the assembly ppl need to know and respond to this email
>> to make sure they are aware and agree
>>
>>
>> Trafalgar would be better for me as i work near there every weekend , but
>> since i can come for 1 hour only... i dont matter much...
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------
>> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 13:30:49 +0100
>> Subject: Re: Re : Fwd: Today's Assembly
>> From: <mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com> marknbarrett at googlemail.com<mailto:
>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com>
>> To: <mailto:strikersassembly at googlegroups.com>
>> strikersassembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>> strikersassembly at googlegroups.com> ; <mailto:
>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>
>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>> trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com> ; <mailto:
>> democracyvillage at googlegroups.com> democracyvillage at googlegroups.com<mailto:
>> democracyvillage at googlegroups.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> OK so the idea is to go together to meet and talk with people and maybe
>> call a street meeting.
>>
>> It's really easy to get to being a few mins walk from Seven Sisters tube.
>> We will be meeting at 6pm at Seven Sisters tube exit (not the mainline train
>> exit, which is round the corner).
>>
>> Maybe we can give an organised space for people to air their views and to
>> share some of what has been going on in Spain, Greece and Israel (camps on
>> the streets and popular assemblies).
>> Please let people you know who might be interested, especially anyone
>> living locally.
>> On 7 August 2011 13:23, Andy Paice < <mailto:andypaice at yahoo.fr>
>> andypaice at yahoo.fr <mailto:andypaice at yahoo.fr> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> I wholeheartedly agree!
>> I think we should join with others to go to the area and at least discuss
>> betwen ourselves if there is a possibility of setting something up there.
>> "A riot is the language of the unheard" - Martin Luther King
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> --- En date de : Dim 7.8.11, Mark Barrett < <mailto:
>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com> marknbarrett at googlemail.com <mailto:
>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com> > a écrit :
>>
>> De: Mark Barrett < <mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com>
>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com <mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com> >
>>
>> Objet: Fwd: Today's Assembly
>> À: "strikersassembly" < <mailto:strikersassembly at googlegroups.com>
>> strikersassembly at googlegroups.com <mailto:
>> strikersassembly at googlegroups.com> >
>>
>> Date: Dimanche 7 août 2011, 13h43
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone I've just spoken with Glyn who's in Tottenham now at the scene
>> of last night's disturbances. The whole area is presently closed to traffic
>> which makes it an excellent place for a street meeting, a local assembly if
>> you like and obviously everyone there is talking about what has happened.
>> It's really easy to get to being a few mins walk from Seven Sisters tube. I
>> propose to call an assembly there for 6pm tonight and I have asked that the
>> planned sunday assembly (whose topic of discussion today was setting up
>> local london assemblies) gets moved up there from the Royal Festival Hall /
>> Trafalgar. What do people think - whose up for it ? Mark
>>
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