[Cc-fests&FR] [climatecampprocess] [Fwd: workshops at big green gathering

Sat Feb 14 15:03:07 GMT 2009

Hi All!

Just back on the email loop.. so to chip in: I'm definitely up for
organising nvda training at bgg. I think it would be good to keep the
focus of this on the more experiential/practical side of things - so
possibilities might be lock-ons (d-locks & tubes), tripods, blockades
showing how to do it & maybe including role-plays so people get to have a
go in a fun way too! If anyone's got more ideas or things they think would
appeal to the festival going peeps I'd love to hear them!
Also as far as the whole bgg set up... I agree with whats been said so far:
vegan cafe
space for people to hang out/discussions/workshops/talks etc
we could have open-mic/music etc later on
I personally would be keen to get a bicycle cinema going as this could be
a good way to raise awareness of the wider issues/campaigns etc. For
example we could show things like the rossport 2008 film, on the verge,
and longer films like age of stupid, an inconvenient truth etc. this could
be like a chill out type space where people can hang out with films etc
showing on one wall... people can come & go.. wouldn't need to be like a
formal cinema with times for showings etc (although we could do that too).
Do we know when the deadline is for the bgg form?
Also have we got a definitive list of the festivals we are going to? It
would be good to thrash this out & maybe try and get an article or some
promo stuff (for free obviously!) in things like festival eye and in the
guides to festivals that newspapers do etc. to generate some interest & it
would be good publicity for climate camp generally too!
Cheers,
Neil

> Hello Marina.
>
> How's this going? Not to be really pushy but I think it's very important
> to
> get it done asap. I'm not sure how many people are on this list- is it
> worth
> sending it to a bigger list- e.g. networking?
> * *
> *Still not sure of numbers as I have no idea who is good, who is strong,
> who
> can multi task and who is disciplined and will stay put rather than wonder
> off.*
> I think it's best to work out exactly what we think needs to be done man
> hour wise and then err on the side of caution. Although the camp may have
> worked with people chipping in, a lot of work did fall to a few people who
> would take things on. I think it's fairer to draw up a rota- make sure
> everyone chips in, rather than expecting people just not to bother.
>
> Can we see the form? What exactly is needed- can we give in a rough idea
> and
> flesh it out nearer the time?
> Cheers,
>
> Ben.
>
> 2009/2/12 Ben Hart <benhart33 at googlemail.com>
>
>> Yep. The LCS is doing it's own thing and won't be donating to Camp as
>> it's
>> focusing on smaller, local projects. I think therefore that the vegan
>> cafe
>> would be the best idea.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/12 james holland <james at dogmanet.org>
>>
>>  the reason i'm keen on these luxuries is that it counteracts the oft
>>> repeated criticism that a sustainable life is a miserable one where
>>> we'll
>>> have to do without things - in fact it'll be better
>>>
>>> but of course keep it doable - i think training and inspiration is
>>> perhaps
>>> more important and less of a practical challenge - i think neil is keen
>>> on
>>> arranging training?
>>>
>>> i think LCS are doing something anyway, and this will be separate /
>>> extra?
>>>
>>> CC style food is perhaps another good profit option as it is a key
>>> feature
>>> of the camp as well? plus badges and t shirts..
>>>
>>> i'm def up for helping at BGG
>>>
>>>
>>> James Holland
>>>
>>> http://risingclevel.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> marina pepper wrote:
>>>
>>>> I personally am dead set against showers saunas etc. Too much work.
>>>> And
>>>> quite frankly if people can't spend a few days at a festival coping,
>>>> it's
>>>> not our job to pander to their vanities.
>>>>
>>>> Yep, there's nothing in James' "ideas" that weren't covered in the
>>>> original working group chat (no minutes ever produced or email list
>>>> produced).
>>>>
>>>> Still not sure of numbers as I have no idea who is good, who is
>>>> strong,
>>>> who can multi task and who is disciplined and will stay put rather
>>>> than
>>>> wonder off.
>>>>
>>>> I note also that now there is no mention of last chance saloon, there
>>>> is
>>>> no suggestion of a bar. Isn't that the profit bit? Discuss
>>>>
>>>> M
>>>> xxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Ben Hart <benhart33 at googlemail.com>
>>>> *To:* cc-festivalsandfundraising at lists.aktivix.org
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 February, 2009 21:22:48
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Cc-fests&FR] [climatecampprocess] [Fwd: workshops at
>>>> big
>>>> green gathering
>>>>
>>>> Ok then..
>>>>  Looks like we need a crash brain storm about what we want to happen.
>>>> James has already done some stirling work looking at an application
>>>> for
>>>> Glasto (See below). I reckon we should thrash out what we'd like to do
>>>> at
>>>> the BGG using this as a starting point.
>>>>  Personally I think something like James' bigger idea below- using one
>>>> big marquee and organising it like one of the neighbourhoods at the
>>>> camp:
>>>>  Vegan Kitchen- making lunch and dinner for donations.
>>>> Direct Action Training sessions in the afternoon.
>>>> Talks/ Discussions based on the different themes of Climate Camp this
>>>> year after dinner, followed by some films (and maybe music?)
>>>>  Not sure a sauna is needed though!!
>>>>  I think a lot of talks/ training sessions will have already been
>>>> produced for the G20 event, and I'm sure structures will be being
>>>> re-obtained in preparation for the convergence. And it's obvious that
>>>> there's plenty of people who would like to volunteer to provide stuff
>>>> to the
>>>> space, which could also be a good meeting point for lots of people if
>>>> you
>>>> make it friendly enough.
>>>>  If we create the space I'm sure it'll work fantastically...
>>>>  What do people think?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  2009/2/11 marina pepper <votepepper at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:
>>>> votepepper at yahoo.co.uk>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    I have the BGG form. Am looking at it blankly cos we haven't had
>>>> any
>>>>    sort of discussion on what Climate Camp is doing on the road.
>>>>
>>>>    I have ideas, but I'd hate to impose a benign dictatorship order on
>>>>    a project I know so many want to be involved with.
>>>>
>>>>    To start you off - is it a spin off of our pop up camp in the city?
>>>>    Does it operate like a neighbourhood? Is it a marquee with a bar? A
>>>>    forum? A vegan cafe? Are we doing training sessions? Consensus
>>>>    debates? Do we need 10 peeps or 30 peeps? Are we offereing stuff
>>>> for
>>>>    kids? Older people?
>>>>
>>>>    Answers soon as you like. I've spent last coupla days doing family
>>>>    court nonsense. YUCK! I'm off to form mothers for justice.
>>>>    Underpants please...
>>>>
>>>>    M
>>>>    xxx
>>>>
>>>> /SMALL - minimum/
>>>> /a small marquee (lightweight 'party tent' type 6x3m?)
>>>> covered kitchen (3mx3m)
>>>> outside kitchen area (3mx3m)/
>>>>
>>>> /tea urn
>>>> projector
>>>> small pa
>>>> solar panel
>>>> bike generator
>>>> batteries
>>>> rocket stoves and other cooking equipment
>>>> food
>>>> sink / water set up
>>>> perimeter signs / bunting / lights
>>>> chairs, cushions
>>>> flags banners/
>>>> /daily schedule/
>>>> /4-5 welcome meeting/intro to climate cmap
>>>> 5-7 training session or  workshop or film
>>>> 7-8 dinner/
>>>> /Kitchen - 12 person hours a day (4 people x 3 hours)
>>>> running talks / films / training - 12phd  (4 people x 3 hours)
>>>> outreach round the festival - 4phd  (2 people x 2 hours)/
>>>> /28 hours X 5 days
>>>> minimum 7 people 4 hours a day (with at least some of those doing a
>>>> few
>>>> hours in the previous few days to set up)/
>>>> /plus any outside speakers/
>>>> /draft budget (very rough)/
>>>>
>>>> /structures - 0 (i've got these)
>>>> Audio visual equipment £200
>>>> transport of staff and equipment £500
>>>> power equipment £500
>>>> workshop expenses £200
>>>> Decoration of field  £500
>>>> food  - £500
>>>> Donation to climate camp £5000
>>>> flyers - £200/
>>>> /total £7,600/
>>>> // //
>>>> /BIG  - Full scale/
>>>> /outreach stall  (simple gazebo 3mx3m)
>>>> a small marquee (lightweight 'party tent' type 6x3m?)
>>>> covered kitchen (3mx3m)
>>>> outside kitchen area (3mx3m)
>>>> compost toilet (combined)
>>>> sauna (4X4 m)
>>>> tea urn
>>>> projector
>>>> small pa
>>>> solar panel
>>>> bike generator
>>>> batteries
>>>> rocket stoves and other cooking equipment
>>>> food
>>>> sink / water set up
>>>> perimeter signs / bunting / lights
>>>> chairs, cushions
>>>> flags banners/
>>>> /daily schedule/
>>>> /1-2 lunch
>>>> 2-3 welcome meeting/intro to climate cmap
>>>> 3-5 training session
>>>> 5-7 workshop / film
>>>> 7-8 dinner
>>>> 8- booze/
>>>> /Kitchen - 24 person hours a day (4 people x 6 hours)
>>>> stall - 12 phd (2 people x 6 hours)
>>>> running talks / films / training - 20phd  (4 people x 5 hours)
>>>> outreach round the festival - 12phd  (2 people x 6 hours)
>>>> bar 8 phd (2 people x 4 hours)/
>>>>
>>>> /76 hours X 5 days
>>>> minimum 20 people about 4 hours a day
>>>> (with at least some of those doing a few hours in the previous few
>>>> days
>>>> to set up)/
>>>> /plus any outside speakers/
>>>> /draft budget (very rough)/
>>>>
>>>> /structures - £200 (compost toilet)
>>>> Audio visual equipment £200
>>>> transport of staff and equipment £1000
>>>> power equipment £500
>>>> workshop expenses £500
>>>> Decoration of field  £1000
>>>> food  - £1000
>>>> booze - £500
>>>> flyers - £300
>>>> Donation to climate camp £5000/
>>>> /total £10,000/
>>>>
>>>>
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