[Cc-fests&FR] [climatecampprocess] [Fwd: workshops at big green gathering

Thu Feb 12 20:55:07 GMT 2009

Hello Marina.

How's this going? Not to be really pushy but I think it's very important to
get it done asap. I'm not sure how many people are on this list- is it worth
sending it to a bigger list- e.g. networking?
* *
*Still not sure of numbers as I have no idea who is good, who is strong, who
can multi task and who is disciplined and will stay put rather than wonder
off.*
I think it's best to work out exactly what we think needs to be done man
hour wise and then err on the side of caution. Although the camp may have
worked with people chipping in, a lot of work did fall to a few people who
would take things on. I think it's fairer to draw up a rota- make sure
everyone chips in, rather than expecting people just not to bother.

Can we see the form? What exactly is needed- can we give in a rough idea and
flesh it out nearer the time?
Cheers,

Ben.

2009/2/12 Ben Hart <benhart33 at googlemail.com>

> Yep. The LCS is doing it's own thing and won't be donating to Camp as it's
> focusing on smaller, local projects. I think therefore that the vegan cafe
> would be the best idea.
>
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> 2009/2/12 james holland <james at dogmanet.org>
>
>  the reason i'm keen on these luxuries is that it counteracts the oft
>> repeated criticism that a sustainable life is a miserable one where we'll
>> have to do without things - in fact it'll be better
>>
>> but of course keep it doable - i think training and inspiration is perhaps
>> more important and less of a practical challenge - i think neil is keen on
>> arranging training?
>>
>> i think LCS are doing something anyway, and this will be separate / extra?
>>
>> CC style food is perhaps another good profit option as it is a key feature
>> of the camp as well? plus badges and t shirts..
>>
>> i'm def up for helping at BGG
>>
>>
>> James Holland
>>
>> http://risingclevel.blogspot.com/
>>
>> marina pepper wrote:
>>
>>> I personally am dead set against showers saunas etc. Too much work. And
>>> quite frankly if people can't spend a few days at a festival coping, it's
>>> not our job to pander to their vanities.
>>>
>>> Yep, there's nothing in James' "ideas" that weren't covered in the
>>> original working group chat (no minutes ever produced or email list
>>> produced).
>>>
>>> Still not sure of numbers as I have no idea who is good, who is strong,
>>> who can multi task and who is disciplined and will stay put rather than
>>> wonder off.
>>>
>>> I note also that now there is no mention of last chance saloon, there is
>>> no suggestion of a bar. Isn't that the profit bit? Discuss
>>>
>>> M
>>> xxx
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Ben Hart <benhart33 at googlemail.com>
>>> *To:* cc-festivalsandfundraising at lists.aktivix.org
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 February, 2009 21:22:48
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Cc-fests&FR] [climatecampprocess] [Fwd: workshops at big
>>> green gathering
>>>
>>> Ok then..
>>>  Looks like we need a crash brain storm about what we want to happen.
>>> James has already done some stirling work looking at an application for
>>> Glasto (See below). I reckon we should thrash out what we'd like to do at
>>> the BGG using this as a starting point.
>>>  Personally I think something like James' bigger idea below- using one
>>> big marquee and organising it like one of the neighbourhoods at the camp:
>>>  Vegan Kitchen- making lunch and dinner for donations.
>>> Direct Action Training sessions in the afternoon.
>>> Talks/ Discussions based on the different themes of Climate Camp this
>>> year after dinner, followed by some films (and maybe music?)
>>>  Not sure a sauna is needed though!!
>>>  I think a lot of talks/ training sessions will have already been
>>> produced for the G20 event, and I'm sure structures will be being
>>> re-obtained in preparation for the convergence. And it's obvious that
>>> there's plenty of people who would like to volunteer to provide stuff to the
>>> space, which could also be a good meeting point for lots of people if you
>>> make it friendly enough.
>>>  If we create the space I'm sure it'll work fantastically...
>>>  What do people think?
>>>
>>>
>>>  2009/2/11 marina pepper <votepepper at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:
>>> votepepper at yahoo.co.uk>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    I have the BGG form. Am looking at it blankly cos we haven't had any
>>>    sort of discussion on what Climate Camp is doing on the road.
>>>
>>>    I have ideas, but I'd hate to impose a benign dictatorship order on
>>>    a project I know so many want to be involved with.
>>>
>>>    To start you off - is it a spin off of our pop up camp in the city?
>>>    Does it operate like a neighbourhood? Is it a marquee with a bar? A
>>>    forum? A vegan cafe? Are we doing training sessions? Consensus
>>>    debates? Do we need 10 peeps or 30 peeps? Are we offereing stuff for
>>>    kids? Older people?
>>>
>>>    Answers soon as you like. I've spent last coupla days doing family
>>>    court nonsense. YUCK! I'm off to form mothers for justice.
>>>    Underpants please...
>>>
>>>    M
>>>    xxx
>>>
>>> /SMALL - minimum/
>>> /a small marquee (lightweight 'party tent' type 6x3m?)
>>> covered kitchen (3mx3m)
>>> outside kitchen area (3mx3m)/
>>>
>>> /tea urn
>>> projector
>>> small pa
>>> solar panel
>>> bike generator
>>> batteries
>>> rocket stoves and other cooking equipment
>>> food
>>> sink / water set up
>>> perimeter signs / bunting / lights
>>> chairs, cushions
>>> flags banners/
>>> /daily schedule/
>>> /4-5 welcome meeting/intro to climate cmap
>>> 5-7 training session or  workshop or film
>>> 7-8 dinner/
>>> /Kitchen - 12 person hours a day (4 people x 3 hours)
>>> running talks / films / training - 12phd  (4 people x 3 hours)
>>> outreach round the festival - 4phd  (2 people x 2 hours)/
>>> /28 hours X 5 days
>>> minimum 7 people 4 hours a day (with at least some of those doing a few
>>> hours in the previous few days to set up)/
>>> /plus any outside speakers/
>>> /draft budget (very rough)/
>>>
>>> /structures - 0 (i've got these)
>>> Audio visual equipment £200
>>> transport of staff and equipment £500
>>> power equipment £500
>>> workshop expenses £200
>>> Decoration of field  £500
>>> food  - £500
>>> Donation to climate camp £5000
>>> flyers - £200/
>>> /total £7,600/
>>> // //
>>> /BIG  - Full scale/
>>> /outreach stall  (simple gazebo 3mx3m)
>>> a small marquee (lightweight 'party tent' type 6x3m?)
>>> covered kitchen (3mx3m)
>>> outside kitchen area (3mx3m)
>>> compost toilet (combined)
>>> sauna (4X4 m)
>>> tea urn
>>> projector
>>> small pa
>>> solar panel
>>> bike generator
>>> batteries
>>> rocket stoves and other cooking equipment
>>> food
>>> sink / water set up
>>> perimeter signs / bunting / lights
>>> chairs, cushions
>>> flags banners/
>>> /daily schedule/
>>> /1-2 lunch
>>> 2-3 welcome meeting/intro to climate cmap
>>> 3-5 training session
>>> 5-7 workshop / film
>>> 7-8 dinner
>>> 8- booze/
>>> /Kitchen - 24 person hours a day (4 people x 6 hours)
>>> stall - 12 phd (2 people x 6 hours)
>>> running talks / films / training - 20phd  (4 people x 5 hours)
>>> outreach round the festival - 12phd  (2 people x 6 hours)
>>> bar 8 phd (2 people x 4 hours)/
>>>
>>> /76 hours X 5 days
>>> minimum 20 people about 4 hours a day
>>> (with at least some of those doing a few hours in the previous few days
>>> to set up)/
>>> /plus any outside speakers/
>>> /draft budget (very rough)/
>>>
>>> /structures - £200 (compost toilet)
>>> Audio visual equipment £200
>>> transport of staff and equipment £1000
>>> power equipment £500
>>> workshop expenses £500
>>> Decoration of field  £1000
>>> food  - £1000
>>> booze - £500
>>> flyers - £300
>>> Donation to climate camp £5000/
>>> /total £10,000/
>>>
>>>
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