[Cc-webedit] Front page

[Jonathan Stevenson]

Hi all,

I think it's great that Jon updated the front page to big-up the coal 
caravan, and agree that we haven't been as good as we should have been at 
promoting it. I copied Penny's email flagging up the need to be ready to do 
this after the G20 to this list on 31 March - so I think Jon was filling a 
gap that needed filling.

However I can also see why Neil is worried that some of the other links have 
gone, and it's not ideal process to be having to make changes in a hurry, 
and wants to make sure that changes to the front page are agreed.

Overall I think we need to be realistic about the way that website updates 
tend to happen: there are a group of site editors, one of us gets contacted 
if someone needs something done to the website (including the front page), 
they make the necessary changes and then, as Jon has done, send a message to 
this list notifying everyone of what changes they've made. Others can then 
chip in with suggestions on list - including reintroducing things that have 
been taken off if that's what people feel is needed.

This is what happened when I updated the front page after the G20, and it 
seemed to work.

I know Neil put up some info about the Coal Caravan during the Brighton 
gathering after a call from Penny. This was a good start, though clearly 
more info was needed. So it would probably have been good to flag the 
initial changes up to this list once so that other people could build on 
that work - that way we might have been able to ward off Penny feeling 
frustrated that the Caravan wasnt' getting enough support.

In this situation, I'd suggest going back to Jon's version, but Neil 
specifying what he thinks needs adding back in, so that we can get 
everything that we need up there. Does that make sense?

And then, building on James's point, if we can find a way to have daily 
reports (plus photos etc) from the caravan up on a Caravan page of the 
website, that would be even better. Anyone able to take this on?

Cheers,
Jonathan




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonathan Leighton" <j at jonathanleighton.com>
To: "bye neil" <neil_bye at hotmail.com>; <cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Cc-webedit] Front page


> Hi Neil,
>
> I've CC'd the webedit mailing list because I don't think this should
> be a private discussion.
>
> I got a call from Penny who is the media contact for the coal caravan.
> She was very frustrated that despite the coal caravan now being a
> working group of the climate camp, it was not receiving the prominence
> on the website that something like the G20 received. She felt that
> this did not reflect the mood of the Brighton gathering, and that
> people there wanted to support the coal caravan. Which includes
> promoting it on our website, especially as it is something which is
> happening *now*. (When the G20 was happening, that was what was
> promoted on the front page.)
>
> Penny sent out press releases last night, which will be being read
> this morning, so she wanted the issue to be resolved last night so
> that people & press who visit the website will be able to see
> information about the coal caravan. With the previous version of the
> front page there is only a tiny link saying "Coal Caravan Progress"
> (and a massive image linking to the coal newspaper which seems quite
> incongruous on the front page).
>
> I did my best with the limited time available, and made a judgement
> that it was reasonable to promote the coal caravan prominently on the
> front page while it is happening, as this is what we have done for
> other climate camp projects in the past. I accepted that I may have
> missed the mark in this judgement and so sent the message that I did
> to the cc-webedit list, so people could make their remarks if
> necessary. In contrast, I rarely see other people reporting changes to
> the cc-webedit list for discussion.
>
> I am very unhappy with the fact that you have simply reverted my
> changes, without any prior attempt to contact me. I think you should
> have tried to make contact, and failing that you should have tried to
> balance the changes I made with your own vision of the front page,
> instead of simply over-ruling me and reverting my changes.
>
> I am going to inform Penny about what has happened, as she will no
> doubt be very frustrated when she looks at the page again and sees it
> identical to how it was yesterday. I'm not available for the next
> hour, but please consider my comments and if you (or anyone else)
> would like to chat on the phone I'm on 0792 9898 121.
>
> Cheers,
> Jon
>
> 2009/4/27 bye neil <neil_bye at hotmail.com>:
>> Hi  Jon
>>            Who did you confer with regarding the changing of the front 
>> page.
>> It is appalling, all the links have gone. It is overkill on the caravan. 
>> It
>> does not look like a climate camp front page and to pick nits you used a
>> cropped coal banner. Please reply promptly. In the mean time I am 
>> reverting
>> it.
>>
>> Neil
>>
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