[Cc-webedit] Front page

Mon Apr 27 13:49:01 BST 2009

Just a note to say that I removed the daily report stuff because they
have set up a blog, and it was agreed with Penny that it was a good idea
to keep daily reports in just one place. Though that change has also
been reverted.

On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 12:29 +0100, Jonathan Stevenson wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I think it's great that Jon updated the front page to big-up the coal 
> caravan, and agree that we haven't been as good as we should have been at 
> promoting it. I copied Penny's email flagging up the need to be ready to do 
> this after the G20 to this list on 31 March - so I think Jon was filling a 
> gap that needed filling.
> 
> However I can also see why Neil is worried that some of the other links have 
> gone, and it's not ideal process to be having to make changes in a hurry, 
> and wants to make sure that changes to the front page are agreed.
> 
> Overall I think we need to be realistic about the way that website updates 
> tend to happen: there are a group of site editors, one of us gets contacted 
> if someone needs something done to the website (including the front page), 
> they make the necessary changes and then, as Jon has done, send a message to 
> this list notifying everyone of what changes they've made. Others can then 
> chip in with suggestions on list - including reintroducing things that have 
> been taken off if that's what people feel is needed.
> 
> This is what happened when I updated the front page after the G20, and it 
> seemed to work.
> 
> I know Neil put up some info about the Coal Caravan during the Brighton 
> gathering after a call from Penny. This was a good start, though clearly 
> more info was needed. So it would probably have been good to flag the 
> initial changes up to this list once so that other people could build on 
> that work - that way we might have been able to ward off Penny feeling 
> frustrated that the Caravan wasnt' getting enough support.
> 
> In this situation, I'd suggest going back to Jon's version, but Neil 
> specifying what he thinks needs adding back in, so that we can get 
> everything that we need up there. Does that make sense?
> 
> And then, building on James's point, if we can find a way to have daily 
> reports (plus photos etc) from the caravan up on a Caravan page of the 
> website, that would be even better. Anyone able to take this on?
> 
> Cheers,
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jonathan Leighton" <j at jonathanleighton.com>
> To: "bye neil" <neil_bye at hotmail.com>; <cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cc-webedit] Front page
> 
> 
> > Hi Neil,
> >
> > I've CC'd the webedit mailing list because I don't think this should
> > be a private discussion.
> >
> > I got a call from Penny who is the media contact for the coal caravan.
> > She was very frustrated that despite the coal caravan now being a
> > working group of the climate camp, it was not receiving the prominence
> > on the website that something like the G20 received. She felt that
> > this did not reflect the mood of the Brighton gathering, and that
> > people there wanted to support the coal caravan. Which includes
> > promoting it on our website, especially as it is something which is
> > happening *now*. (When the G20 was happening, that was what was
> > promoted on the front page.)
> >
> > Penny sent out press releases last night, which will be being read
> > this morning, so she wanted the issue to be resolved last night so
> > that people & press who visit the website will be able to see
> > information about the coal caravan. With the previous version of the
> > front page there is only a tiny link saying "Coal Caravan Progress"
> > (and a massive image linking to the coal newspaper which seems quite
> > incongruous on the front page).
> >
> > I did my best with the limited time available, and made a judgement
> > that it was reasonable to promote the coal caravan prominently on the
> > front page while it is happening, as this is what we have done for
> > other climate camp projects in the past. I accepted that I may have
> > missed the mark in this judgement and so sent the message that I did
> > to the cc-webedit list, so people could make their remarks if
> > necessary. In contrast, I rarely see other people reporting changes to
> > the cc-webedit list for discussion.
> >
> > I am very unhappy with the fact that you have simply reverted my
> > changes, without any prior attempt to contact me. I think you should
> > have tried to make contact, and failing that you should have tried to
> > balance the changes I made with your own vision of the front page,
> > instead of simply over-ruling me and reverting my changes.
> >
> > I am going to inform Penny about what has happened, as she will no
> > doubt be very frustrated when she looks at the page again and sees it
> > identical to how it was yesterday. I'm not available for the next
> > hour, but please consider my comments and if you (or anyone else)
> > would like to chat on the phone I'm on 0792 9898 121.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jon
> >
> > 2009/4/27 bye neil <neil_bye at hotmail.com>:
> >> Hi  Jon
> >>            Who did you confer with regarding the changing of the front 
> >> page.
> >> It is appalling, all the links have gone. It is overkill on the caravan. 
> >> It
> >> does not look like a climate camp front page and to pick nits you used a
> >> cropped coal banner. Please reply promptly. In the mean time I am 
> >> reverting
> >> it.
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
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