[Cc-webedit] [mediateam] News during camp & website

[Elly Robson]

ps. a good example of the deep involvement of the media team in camp
life is the support that the media team will be giving to those taking
autonomous actions - the degree of trust and need for security means
that it is important that this is a closed loop until the action is
completed and we get the go ahead to publicise it.

2009/8/17 Elly Robson <edr22 at cam.ac.uk>:
> "i hope this can help us to find a way to resolve this issue before
> camp as i think its vital that the new website can promote campers own
> stories, allowing us to show a different side of camp to the one that
> is normally portrayed in mainstream media, while also ensuring that
> the political views that appear on our website aren't massively off
> the messages and politics the movement as a whole has agreed."
>
> wavy hands to this statement, Murray.
>
> Jonathan, the only thing I worry about is that the media team has a
> specific remit, agreed by a national gathering, which makes us fully
> accountable to the camp. A lot of us have been to most national
> gatherings in the run-up to camp and are up-to-date on what
> information the camp wishes to have publicised when. While IndieMedia
> are undoubtedly friendly and sympathetic to us and there is much cross
> over between indiemedia journalists and the camp, the same
> relationship does not exist between IndieMedia and the camp as 'the
> media team of the climate camp' and the camp.
>
> when you say - 'I think there is a danger of climate camp becoming too
> controlling, and some people think this already.' - you need to
> remember that there is a process by which the media team operates to
> keep in line with the decisions of the camp, which IndieMedia and
> others are not involved in in the same way. Part of our remit is to
> get across the key climate change-related messages that the camp has
> agreed on. (also please note the degree of control decided by campers
> this year is a lot more relaxed than previous years).
>
> I think a newsfeed, including a selection of IndieMedia articles, is
> absolutely fine, but sourcing needs to be made clear (ie. this article
> is from IndieMedia London), light-touch moderation is useful (if only
> because not all articles will be as important/well-written/relevant as
> others) and there needs to be space for news directly from the media
> team, not just for press releases (as some things are not mainstream
> newsworthy but will be of interest to campers and potential campers)
> on either the same newsfeed or a seperate one.
>
> A (lightly moderated) blog should be used to express the opinions of
> different campers and provide the multi-faceted perspectives and
> myriad politics of the camp.
>
> Moderation of articles would be determined by our remit, agreed by
> national gathering, not just arbitary 'control'.
>
> Elly
>
> ps. the website is looking crazy hot - really accessible and fantastic!
>
>
> 2009/8/17 Murray <muppet317 at hotmail.com>:
>> hi all,
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>> i see jody's point about losing control over 'news' and the potential for
>> major issues that could arise from just promoting any 'climate
>> camp' indymedia content on our website however it does also highlight an
>> inherent conflict between the media team's work to control and manage our
>> messaging and the desire to promote campers producing news themselves
>> (thus avoiding the spin, sensationalisation and misrepresentation of the
>> mainstream media).
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>> having said that i think we can find a way to do both, and hopefully without
>> too much effort! one option could simply be to rename the 'news' section
>> something like 'Climate Camp on Indymedia' and having a separate section of
>> the page for either a climate camp blog or 'news' from the media team. this
>> could help to promote campers own reporting while retaining the difference
>> between 'the camp's messaging' and 'the views of all the people at camp'
>> which are definitely distinct.
>>
>> alternatively some 'light touch' moderation / selective promotion of content
>> could be one way of ensuring that way off message content does not appear in
>> climate camps name. while this could be perceived as controlling, the media
>> working grop remit does include promoting the politics and actions of camp
>> through mainstream and independent media (not just promoting anyone's
>> views). but - does anyone actually have capacity to take on promoting /
>> moderating content for this during the week?
>>
>> i hope this can help us to find a way to resolve this issue before camp as i
>> think its vital that the new website can promote campers own stories,
>> allowing us to show a different side of camp to the one that is normally
>> portrayed in mainstream media, while also ensuring that the political views
>> that appear on our website aren't massively off the messages and politics
>> the movement as a whole has agreed.
>>
>> cheers,
>> murray
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>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:23:18 +0100
>> From: jody at eco-labs.org
>> To: j at jonathanleighton.com
>> CC: mediateam at lists.riseup.net; cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org
>> Subject: Re: [mediateam] News during camp & website
>>
>> hi Jonathan, - I forgot to say thanks for all the work you are doing and
>> hope not stress you out at the last moment. Sorry if this conflicts with
>> earlier discussions that I missed - hope you can find a easy way to resolve
>> this???
>> Jody
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>> www.eco-labs.org
>> www.teach-in.co.uk
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>> 2009/8/17 Jody Boehnert <jody at eco-labs.org>
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>> HI Jonathan & all,
>>
>> Yes, if I understand this correctly I have to say I do have a major
>> objection to it as I think it could easily undermine the work the media team
>> is doing in developing messaging. We should not publish opinions from
>> individual campers on our website as 'news' - This could potentially be
>> disasterous given the wide range of opinions within CC - it could be very
>> off-topic, ill-considered or even a little crazy.
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>> I would not like to just pull articles from Indemedia either - although they
>> do have a bit of moderation set up it is not fast enough and their standards
>> are not the same as CC media policy.
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>> 'News' on our website needs to come from the media team, there is not way of
>> opening this up without causing chaos.  Blogs are different - but need to be
>> moderated, not presented as news, and not have as high a priority on the
>> site.
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>> Jody
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>> www.eco-labs.org
>> www.teach-in.co.uk
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>> 2009/8/16 Jonathan Leighton <j at jonathanleighton.com>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> [This is quite important to read if you care about the provisions for
>> open publishing during camp.]
>>
>> So far, our plan has been to set up a news.climatecamp.org.uk website
>> for people to post to. Some important concerns have been raised about
>> this approach, and discussed informally between various individuals:
>>
>> * We don't have a process set up for moderating / promoting articles.
>> Any process we do set up could be seen as an attempt by climate camp to
>> control what people are saying.
>>
>> * Having a climate camp specific news site could be seen as distancing
>> ourselves from Indymedia and therefore "the movement", which could
>> amplify bad feeling
>>
>> * Setting up a specific news site would be more work for the website
>> group to build and maintain. We are already short on time with the new
>> website launching within 2 days.
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>> So there's a proposal for a change of plan.
>>
>> PROPOSAL: We use London Indymedia and pull promoted articles tagged with
>> "climatecamp" from there. We put a link from our website which takes
>> people directly to a publish page for this tag. This makes sense
>> because:
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>> * We don't have to do any setup/maintenance
>> * The camp is in London
>> * It's part of Indymedia and therefore the "movement"
>> * It won't leave people confused about what the difference is between
>> Indymedia and "our" news site
>>
>> This is both pragmatic and probably better politically.
>>
>> We have basically no time for long discussions on this. If people have
>> MAJOR objections, please voice them by NOON TOMORROW (that's Monday 16th
>> August).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jon
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