[Cc-webedit] Interim website process proposal

Wed Aug 19 10:22:15 BST 2009

Hey Ed,

We agreed we will introduce new accounts gradually to prevent problems
arising and so we can develop our process as we go along. So for now if
you have changes please send them to us and we'll put them up. In the
future we'll definitely get you access to the CMS though.

Sorry if we missed some content for southcoast. The old site is here:
http://old.climatecamp.org.uk/. Send us what you want to go up and we
will do it.

Cheers

On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 01:49 -0700, Ed Lloyd-Davies wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> More swoop confusion :) I think some real thought has to be put into
> differentiating the two swoops as if we can't keep them straight I don't
> think we can expect anyone else too.
> 
> Re new website I assume the accounts on the old website are dust and we
> will have to create new ones and then get pages we usually edit (like 
> neighbourhood pages) associated with the new account by someone. Can't 
> say it is obvious, after a quick look, how to create an account. Any tips? Also a lot of the content on the southcoast page has disappeared. It the old site available anywhere so we can port stuff accross.
> 
> Other than that all looks good though. Thanks.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ed
> 
> --- On Wed, 8/19/09, Jonathan Leighton <j at jonathanleighton.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Jonathan Leighton <j at jonathanleighton.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Cc-webedit] Interim website process proposal
> > To: jacob at brightonclimatechange.org, cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org
> > Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 4:21 AM
> > Bit confused - it says 17th-18th
> > here?
> > http://www.thegreatclimateswoop.org/
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Jon
> > 
> > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 23:21 +0100, Jacob Skinner wrote:
> > > Hey Jon,
> > > 
> > > Top top work on the site man... have been checking its
> > progress, but 
> > > have not had anythig to add, as you peeps are doing a
> > super job.
> > > Have noticed that 
> > > http://dev.climatecamp.org.uk/actions/climate-swoop-2009
> > has 17th 18th 
> > > dates... the main site (and myself) are swooping on
> > 16th!
> > > 
> > > Nice one,
> > > 
> > > J
> > > 
> > > Jonathan Leighton wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Firstly I'd say that I think Alistair's proposal
> > is really good and has
> > > > my full support.
> > > >
> > > > On the subject of the email account, I'd be happy
> > to check it for the
> > > > next two weeks and agree this might be helpful as
> > there will inevitably
> > > > be bug reports and the like coming in.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 15:36 +0100, Jonathan
> > Stevenson wrote:
> > > >   
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> I think rotating the website@ management
> > makes a lot of sense as it's a lot 
> > > >> of work and working groups are meant to
> > rotate roles. Plus while there's a 
> > > >> slight lack of continuity it's better for
> > forming a cohesive group where 
> > > >> everyone is up to speed on what's going on.
> > In the Process group we 
> > > >> sometimes have the same person for more than
> > one period in a row but it's 
> > > >> good to aim for rotating it that often if we
> > can. For this group it also 
> > > >> makes good use of the extra capacity we've
> > built up in the last year.
> > > >>
> > > >> I hesitate to ask in case he's exhausted but
> > Jon would you be prepared to 
> > > >> take on the first two weeks? It seems to make
> > sense as you've been 
> > > >> coordinating the development of the new site
> > so presumably you;re most 
> > > >> familiar with how it works and can get stuff
> > done quickly.
> > > >>
> > > >> In terms of having someone from Process
> > overseeing it, I'm not sure that 
> > > >> that's necessary or appropriate right now. I
> > or others from Process can give 
> > > >> advice on how best to manage an email account
> > when there are lots of 
> > > >> different types of request coming in and not
> > everyone in the group has the 
> > > >> log-in, but it's really for us to mediate if
> > there's a problem rather than 
> > > >> supervise to make sure the process is
> > 'correct'.
> > > >>
> > > >> So I'd suggest trying it using the process
> > Alistair's suggesting and seeing 
> > > >> how it goes.
> > > >>
> > > >> Amazing that we're a few hours from launching
> > a new site! Well done everyone 
> > > >> who's been working on it (and who's been
> > working to keep the old site up to 
> > > >> date as well!).
> > > >>
> > > >> J
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >> From: "alistair alexander" <alistair at ali303.net>
> > > >> To: "cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org"
> > <Cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org>
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:48 PM
> > > >> Subject: [Cc-webedit] Interim website process
> > proposal
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> The website is coming together and we’re
> > aiming to launch Tuesday
> > > >> evening i.e. today.
> > > >>
> > > >> When we do launch we'll inevitably get
> > bombarded for logins, new
> > > >> pages, editing pages and all manner of other
> > requests.
> > > >>
> > > >> Of course, now that we have a shiny new
> > website, what we really need
> > > >> is a new website process that covers all
> > aspects of producing the
> > > >> website and ensures the website group is as
> > open and inclusive as
> > > >> possible. But that's going to take time and
> > no doubt a lot of
> > > >> consultation.
> > > >>
> > > >> So this is a proposal for an interim process
> > to take us from launch to
> > > >> the Camp itself. Please send any comments on
> > this by 9pm this evening,
> > > >> as we really want some kind of framework in
> > place by Tuesday evening
> > > >> for the launch.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Editing/adding content
> > > >>
> > > >> >From launch onwards, we need to ensure
> > that everyone’s aware of all
> > > >> changes occurring on the website, so we
> > don’t repeat other's work,
> > > >> undo work already done etc - basic version
> > control issues when you
> > > >> have lots of people working on the same
> > thing. And I think we need to
> > > >> ensure this is a genuinely collaborative
> > process.
> > > >>
> > > >> We should have two types of website content
> > changes: Minor and major
> > > >>
> > > >> Minor changes are edits to an existing
> > content page, for example for
> > > >> style, to update text or add an image.
> > > >>
> > > >> Major changes include changes to homepage or
> > section page promos,
> > > >> adding new pages, moving pages around the
> > site. For these changes
> > > >> please notify the list before you make the
> > change to ensure the group
> > > >> has a chance to comment and raise any
> > issues.
> > > >>
> > > >> If you have any doubt as to whether a change
> > is major or minor, raise
> > > >> it as a major change on the email list.
> > > >>
> > > >> Website email account
> > > >>
> > > >> This will be the main way people will contact
> > us with change requests.
> > > >>
> > > >> The website@ email account should be managed
> > on a 2-week rotation in
> > > >> order to ensure emails are dealt with
> > collectively and transparently.
> > > >> The person who checks the email from one
> > period to the next can be
> > > >> arranged on the cc-webedit list. People who
> > are not the current
> > > >> "checkers" can log in and deal with
> > correspondence they have already
> > > >> started, but should not deal with new
> > correspondence.
> > > >> For the next 2 weeks – up until camp – I
> > suggest that we enlist
> > > >> someone from the Process Group to oversee the
> > account to get our
> > > >> interim process up and running.
> > > >>
> > > >> Any requests for editing existing content or
> > adding new content should
> > > >> follow the same process as above i.e.
> > circulated on the list for 3
> > > >> hours between 10am and 10pm before being
> > implemented.
> > > >>
> > > >> Logins
> > > >>
> > > >> We should keep new logins for the period
> > after launch to an absolute
> > > >> minimum. This is because we simply won’t
> > have the capacity to support
> > > >> new users.
> > > >>
> > > >> Once the site has bedded down we should start
> > a process of giving
> > > >> accounts to a small group of people at a time
> > to edit their areas.
> > > >> This should be a gradual process so that we
> > can work closely with them
> > > >> to get the best out of the website.
> > > >>
> > > >> In the meantime, apart from active members of
> > the website group and
> > > >> two people from the media group, we shouldn't
> > be creating any logins
> > > >> for new users.
> > > >>
> > > >> Hope this helps - happy to dicuss or clarify
> > any points,
> > > >>
> > > >> alistair
> > > >>
> > > >>
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