[Cc-webedit] Interim website process proposal

Wed Aug 19 11:00:41 BST 2009

I confess!!!!

i took out a lot of the content on past meetings - there were a lot of
neighbourhoods with out of date content so - so we removed all of
that.

If there's content you want on the south coast page, let us know and
we'll update your page - but i'm pretty sure most of it was on
previous meetings.

Alistair

2009/8/19 Jonathan Leighton <j at jonathanleighton.com>:
> Hey Ed,
>
> We agreed we will introduce new accounts gradually to prevent problems
> arising and so we can develop our process as we go along. So for now if
> you have changes please send them to us and we'll put them up. In the
> future we'll definitely get you access to the CMS though.
>
> Sorry if we missed some content for southcoast. The old site is here:
> http://old.climatecamp.org.uk/. Send us what you want to go up and we
> will do it.
>
> Cheers
>
> On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 01:49 -0700, Ed Lloyd-Davies wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> More swoop confusion :) I think some real thought has to be put into
>> differentiating the two swoops as if we can't keep them straight I don't
>> think we can expect anyone else too.
>>
>> Re new website I assume the accounts on the old website are dust and we
>> will have to create new ones and then get pages we usually edit (like
>> neighbourhood pages) associated with the new account by someone. Can't
>> say it is obvious, after a quick look, how to create an account. Any tips? Also a lot of the content on the southcoast page has disappeared. It the old site available anywhere so we can port stuff accross.
>>
>> Other than that all looks good though. Thanks.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> --- On Wed, 8/19/09, Jonathan Leighton <j at jonathanleighton.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Jonathan Leighton <j at jonathanleighton.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [Cc-webedit] Interim website process proposal
>> > To: jacob at brightonclimatechange.org, cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org
>> > Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 4:21 AM
>> > Bit confused - it says 17th-18th
>> > here?
>> > http://www.thegreatclimateswoop.org/
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Jon
>> >
>> > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 23:21 +0100, Jacob Skinner wrote:
>> > > Hey Jon,
>> > >
>> > > Top top work on the site man... have been checking its
>> > progress, but
>> > > have not had anythig to add, as you peeps are doing a
>> > super job.
>> > > Have noticed that
>> > > http://dev.climatecamp.org.uk/actions/climate-swoop-2009
>> > has 17th 18th
>> > > dates... the main site (and myself) are swooping on
>> > 16th!
>> > >
>> > > Nice one,
>> > >
>> > > J
>> > >
>> > > Jonathan Leighton wrote:
>> > > > Hi all,
>> > > >
>> > > > Firstly I'd say that I think Alistair's proposal
>> > is really good and has
>> > > > my full support.
>> > > >
>> > > > On the subject of the email account, I'd be happy
>> > to check it for the
>> > > > next two weeks and agree this might be helpful as
>> > there will inevitably
>> > > > be bug reports and the like coming in.
>> > > >
>> > > > Cheers,
>> > > > Jon
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 15:36 +0100, Jonathan
>> > Stevenson wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hi all,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I think rotating the website@ management
>> > makes a lot of sense as it's a lot
>> > > >> of work and working groups are meant to
>> > rotate roles. Plus while there's a
>> > > >> slight lack of continuity it's better for
>> > forming a cohesive group where
>> > > >> everyone is up to speed on what's going on.
>> > In the Process group we
>> > > >> sometimes have the same person for more than
>> > one period in a row but it's
>> > > >> good to aim for rotating it that often if we
>> > can. For this group it also
>> > > >> makes good use of the extra capacity we've
>> > built up in the last year.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I hesitate to ask in case he's exhausted but
>> > Jon would you be prepared to
>> > > >> take on the first two weeks? It seems to make
>> > sense as you've been
>> > > >> coordinating the development of the new site
>> > so presumably you;re most
>> > > >> familiar with how it works and can get stuff
>> > done quickly.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> In terms of having someone from Process
>> > overseeing it, I'm not sure that
>> > > >> that's necessary or appropriate right now. I
>> > or others from Process can give
>> > > >> advice on how best to manage an email account
>> > when there are lots of
>> > > >> different types of request coming in and not
>> > everyone in the group has the
>> > > >> log-in, but it's really for us to mediate if
>> > there's a problem rather than
>> > > >> supervise to make sure the process is
>> > 'correct'.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> So I'd suggest trying it using the process
>> > Alistair's suggesting and seeing
>> > > >> how it goes.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Amazing that we're a few hours from launching
>> > a new site! Well done everyone
>> > > >> who's been working on it (and who's been
>> > working to keep the old site up to
>> > > >> date as well!).
>> > > >>
>> > > >> J
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > > >> From: "alistair alexander" <alistair at ali303.net>
>> > > >> To: "cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org"
>> > <Cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org>
>> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:48 PM
>> > > >> Subject: [Cc-webedit] Interim website process
>> > proposal
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> The website is coming together and we’re
>> > aiming to launch Tuesday
>> > > >> evening i.e. today.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> When we do launch we'll inevitably get
>> > bombarded for logins, new
>> > > >> pages, editing pages and all manner of other
>> > requests.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Of course, now that we have a shiny new
>> > website, what we really need
>> > > >> is a new website process that covers all
>> > aspects of producing the
>> > > >> website and ensures the website group is as
>> > open and inclusive as
>> > > >> possible. But that's going to take time and
>> > no doubt a lot of
>> > > >> consultation.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> So this is a proposal for an interim process
>> > to take us from launch to
>> > > >> the Camp itself. Please send any comments on
>> > this by 9pm this evening,
>> > > >> as we really want some kind of framework in
>> > place by Tuesday evening
>> > > >> for the launch.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Editing/adding content
>> > > >>
>> > > >> >From launch onwards, we need to ensure
>> > that everyone’s aware of all
>> > > >> changes occurring on the website, so we
>> > don’t repeat other's work,
>> > > >> undo work already done etc - basic version
>> > control issues when you
>> > > >> have lots of people working on the same
>> > thing. And I think we need to
>> > > >> ensure this is a genuinely collaborative
>> > process.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> We should have two types of website content
>> > changes: Minor and major
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Minor changes are edits to an existing
>> > content page, for example for
>> > > >> style, to update text or add an image.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Major changes include changes to homepage or
>> > section page promos,
>> > > >> adding new pages, moving pages around the
>> > site. For these changes
>> > > >> please notify the list before you make the
>> > change to ensure the group
>> > > >> has a chance to comment and raise any
>> > issues.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> If you have any doubt as to whether a change
>> > is major or minor, raise
>> > > >> it as a major change on the email list.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Website email account
>> > > >>
>> > > >> This will be the main way people will contact
>> > us with change requests.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> The website@ email account should be managed
>> > on a 2-week rotation in
>> > > >> order to ensure emails are dealt with
>> > collectively and transparently.
>> > > >> The person who checks the email from one
>> > period to the next can be
>> > > >> arranged on the cc-webedit list. People who
>> > are not the current
>> > > >> "checkers" can log in and deal with
>> > correspondence they have already
>> > > >> started, but should not deal with new
>> > correspondence.
>> > > >> For the next 2 weeks – up until camp – I
>> > suggest that we enlist
>> > > >> someone from the Process Group to oversee the
>> > account to get our
>> > > >> interim process up and running.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Any requests for editing existing content or
>> > adding new content should
>> > > >> follow the same process as above i.e.
>> > circulated on the list for 3
>> > > >> hours between 10am and 10pm before being
>> > implemented.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Logins
>> > > >>
>> > > >> We should keep new logins for the period
>> > after launch to an absolute
>> > > >> minimum. This is because we simply won’t
>> > have the capacity to support
>> > > >> new users.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Once the site has bedded down we should start
>> > a process of giving
>> > > >> accounts to a small group of people at a time
>> > to edit their areas.
>> > > >> This should be a gradual process so that we
>> > can work closely with them
>> > > >> to get the best out of the website.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> In the meantime, apart from active members of
>> > the website group and
>> > > >> two people from the media group, we shouldn't
>> > be creating any logins
>> > > >> for new users.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Hope this helps - happy to dicuss or clarify
>> > any points,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> alistair
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
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