[Cc-webedit] [climatecampprocess] text alert system for swoop

alistair alexander alistair at ali303.net
Thu Jul 9 14:12:33 BST 2009


i kinda think this discussion is straying into territory where email
should probably be avoided.this is for quite important legal as well
as security reasons.

richly ironic, i know, when discussing a techno coms group - but there we are.

ali

2009/7/9 james holland <james at dogmanet.org>:
> yep, this message was just to make sure we're ready to go when the time
> comes
>
> although the swoop is already out there in the main flyer and on the front
> page of the website:
>
> "This year we will set up the camp together, with a mass swoop of people
> taking the site. Get down to London on the day before camp on 26 August and
> be ready for the action to start at any time. Join us on facebook and sign
> up to twitter and text updates to make sure you stay informed about plans."
>>Is there a swoop technology/comms group ?
>
> i kind of think the people who know about this stuff are probably to remain
> secret as they are necesarily close to or part of the land group, i just
> think we need need to know that they are in place.
>
> maybe we need a swoop group though, that includes people from all the
> interested groups - what do process people think?
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Anna <rudderism at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Wiggly hands to that. As far as i understand we are still awaiting
>> confirmation from the land group that a swoop is feasible ?
>>
>> Until we have the word from them it seems unwise to actually start
>> communicating with folk. However is a great idea to make sure we have the
>> technology in place and a clear group of people who are responsible for
>> making it work. This group needs to have a clear mandate from
>> gathering/networking about what can and can't be said via this medium...
>> afore we loose what little radical political messaging we have left !
>>
>> Is there a swoop technology/comms group ?
>>
>> xx
>> --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Ben Palmer <palmer-san at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> From: Ben Palmer <palmer-san at hotmail.co.uk>
>> Subject: RE: [climatecampprocess] text alert system for swoop
>> To: "CC James" <james at dogmanet.org>, gringoben at gmail.com,
>> cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org, "CC Process list"
>> <climatecampprocess at lists.riseup.net>, site at climatecamp.org.uk
>> Date: Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 12:40 PM
>>
>> Some concerns from me here,
>>
>> we really need to discuss the swoop and how it happens as a whole group,
>> here are all the swoop decisions that have been made so far:
>>
>> -Immediately following the traditional closed group site take there will
>> be a public swoop to the site.
>> This will be part of the narrative and pre-publicity advertising the
>> convergence. This is subject to land
>> group concerns and capacity. CONSENSUS REACHED
>> -Camp will begin on Thursday 27th and to end on Wednesday the 2nd.This
>> includes a day at each end
>> for week for the public to be involved in setup and tat down. CONSENSUS
>> REACHED
>>
>> as the site group is currently looking at practicalities of setting the
>> site up in a day, and the land group are assessing swoop concerns and
>> doability too, i am reticent to just go ahead and start up a text service,
>> especially given some of the major mis messaging coming out of texts and
>> twitter in the past.
>>
>> by all means lay the groundwork, but as this is a part of our
>> communication with the public, i'd be happier if it was agreed at a national
>> gathering before empowering a small group to get on with it.
>>
>> righty then, sorry to be critical, just trying to ensure we don't rush in
>> headfirst without involving people in process first...
>>
>> ben :)
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:07:06 +0100
>> > From: james at dogmanet.org
>> > To: gringoben at gmail.com; cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org;
>> > climatecampprocess at lists.riseup.net; site at climatecamp.org.uk
>> > Subject: [climatecampprocess] text alert system for swoop
>> >
>> > can someone send messages to the text alert system from April 1st, that
>> > will be in the right place to send a message to it on aug 27?
>> >
>> > can we include the sign up for it or a link to it on the front page of
>> > the website?
>> >
>> > (i am drafting text explaining the swoop and the text service on the
>> > networking list, and this will be with the web group soon)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > James Holland
>> >
>> > http://risingclevel.blogspot.com/
>>
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