[Cc-webedit] 3 Camps?
James Holland
james at dogmanet.org
Fri May 29 19:39:28 BST 2009
for me it's 3 camps, mass action, copenhagen, (even mentioning that
there are other global camps) - everything! and they all fit into the
overall theme of the economy causing climate change
they do - from open casting in merthyr to frankfurt airport expansion to
carbon trading lobbyists at copenhagen and coal burning near nottingham -
it's all for one reason - profit in a growth orinetated economy
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Jonathan Stevenson <
jjjstevenson at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> I think there's a discussion to be had about whether to lead on 3 Summer
> Camps - London, Scotland and Wales - which could work with a general climate
> movement narrative + concept (and fits with the first postcard), or whether
> to use the main CC website to publicise the London camp, go for a financial
> crisis/carbon trading/Copenhagen narrative + concept, but redirect people
> heavily to the Scotland and Wales camps, probably with at least a button in
> the right hand column about each.
>
> I'm pretty inclined to go for the latter as both the other Camps have got
> their own websites. But I'm also very keen to get as many people to all
> three and if people have heard of us they'll probably come to our website.
> And I wouldn't want Scotland and Wales to think that we don't love them. But
> does decentralisation mean not being on the front page of the centralised
> site?!
>
> I'm copying in networking as this is possibly something that could be
> discussed at their meeting, if possible after consulting with
> Scotland/Wales. I don't think the networking meeting should be on Tuesday
> night personally as lots of people will be at the Glastonbury or London
> meetings and it would be good for there to be an opportunity to have people
> who are not in London there, eg. Helen, some of
>
> So I'm not sure about putting in or not putting in the Wales and Scotland
> gatherings. I think it's a decent gesture to include them while we get our
> shit together.
>
> I agree on the Climate Cafe link.
>
> J
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Leighton" <
> j at jonathanleighton.com>
> To: <cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 3:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cc-webedit] sidebar buttons
>
>
> Wavey hands in general, but some points:
>>
>> 1. I think we should advertise other camps, but not other camps'
>> gatherings (at least not so prominently). I just gets confusing and the
>> size of the side-bars is already dwarfing the actual home page textual
>> content
>>
>> 2. I think we should lose the climate action cafe link. It's not been
>> updated recently, is not an official climate camp undertaking, and can
>> be just put on http://climatecamp.org.uk/node/465
>>
>> Very good in general though, I think the sidebars do need cleaning up.
>>
>> Jonx
>>
>> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:30 +0000, ellen potts wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks lots for all this jonathan. Updates look great as interim
>>> measures!
>>>
>>> One thing I think we have to be really careful / clear about - and I
>>> maybe just misreading jonathan's email - is that the summer climate
>>> camp 'in the city' is not the London camp - i.e. not hosted by the
>>> London neighbourhood. So maybe as is on the website it could be
>>> referred to as is as varieties of the 'summer climate camp 09' and 'in
>>> the city' where needed etc.. Apologies jonathan if i'm just being
>>> picky about the shorthand you're using.
>>>
>>> For the moment, i think the 'London camp page' referred to (node/551)
>>> can be resolved for the moment with a little circularity and updating
>>> of the neighbourhoods page. The home page pretty much outlines the
>>> summer climate camp in the city and this could just be duplicated with
>>> a 'how to get involved' buttons linking into working groups and
>>> neighbourhoods - the latter needs serious updating as it refers to
>>> january stuff. I'm happy to update the text on this possibly using the
>>> minutes from Hebden - realistically i could have it done by the end of
>>> monday so maybe could just cut it back to contacts before then?
>>>
>>> ellen x
>>> --- On Fri, 29/5/09, Jonathan Stevenson <jjjstevenson at fastmail.fm>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Jonathan Stevenson <jjjstevenson at fastmail.fm>
>>> Subject: [Cc-webedit] sidebar buttons
>>> To: cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org
>>> Cc: website at climatecamp.org.uk
>>> Date: Friday, 29 May, 2009, 2:41 AM
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Can I propose an interim tidy-up of the right hand menu
>>> buttons on the website, to highlight the Scotland and Wales
>>> camps and maybe make what's in them a bit more logical? Also
>>> an extra button on the left hand menu. The text and links I'd
>>> propose are below - can we say 24 hours for any
>>> problems/amendments and then it can go up? We can always
>>> change further later.
>>>
>>> One question this raises is how we decide what order to put
>>> the Wales, Scotland and London camps in, when we list all
>>> three. I'm assuming that since the Wales and Scotland camps
>>> have their own websites, and since the UK process (and hence
>>> website) is organising the London camp, it follows that we
>>> would put that one first and foremost on this site, with the
>>> other two following. So that's why I've put the Cambridge
>>> gathering first in terms of gatherings. But then when it comes
>>> to the three camps in the summer, I'm more inclined to put
>>> them in chronological order, as that seems the most
>>> comprehensible. What do others think? Obviously this is all
>>> just an interim step, while we work out how to revamp the
>>> website in full. And I'd hope that in the next couple of days
>>> we'll have what's in the second box in the centre column
>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> One thing this means is we seriously need to flesh out the
>>> London Camp page with lots more info asap:
>>> http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/node/551. Can someone take on
>>> drafting a plan for this?
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> RIGHT HAND BOX 1:
>>>
>>> Get Involved
>>> ----------------
>>> Next Gatherings
>>> -----------------
>>>
>>> 20-21 June in
>>> Cambridge [link bottom two lines to gatherings page]
>>>
>>> Boiling Over:
>>> Scotland’s Gathering
>>> for Climate Action:
>>> 11-14 June in
>>> Glasgow [link bottom two lines to
>>> http://climatecampscotland.org.uk/?page_id=116]
>>>
>>> Climate Camp
>>> Cymru gathering:
>>> 13 June in
>>> Swansea [link bottom two lines to
>>> http://climatecampcymru.org/]
>>>
>>> Other upcoming
>>> events [link to http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/node/505]
>>>
>>> [I don't think it makes sense to have the Age of Stupid and
>>> Download latest leaflet links in this box - we should work out
>>> somewhere else on the site to mention the Age of Stupid,
>>> probably in the context of putting on local screenings. And I
>>> think the leaflets page is fine to just be findable in the
>>> Spread the Word section for now.]
>>>
>>>
>>> RIGHT HAND BOX 2:
>>>
>>> Summer 2009
>>> -----------------
>>> Three Camps!
>>> ------------------
>>>
>>> Scotland, 3-9 Aug [link to:
>>> http://climatecampscotland.org.uk/?page_id=116]
>>>
>>> Wales, 13-16 Aug [link to http://climatecampcymru.org/]
>>>
>>> London, 27 Aug-2 Sep [link to:
>>> http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/node/551]
>>>
>>> [I don't think it makes sense to have the Twitter feed link in
>>> this box - see box on left suggestion below. The Regional and
>>> International Camps link is obsolete because the regional
>>> camps are linked above and the box below already links to the
>>> International Camps page.]
>>>
>>>
>>> NEW BOX ON LEFT (under Subscribe and above Climate Action
>>> Cafe):
>>>
>>> Tell your friends
>>>
>>> Sign up to our Twitter feed [link to:
>>> http://climatecampcymru.org/] or join us on Facebook [link to:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/Camp-for-Climate-Action/13788209740?ref=ts
>>> ]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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