[Cc-webedit] [mediateam] The LIVE climatecamp event website

Tue Oct 13 23:23:02 BST 2009

Just a quick response to Richard's email....

If we can get the Live site working for the swoop then it'll be great, but even to have a working version to 'play with' during the action would be ace.

I suspect there may be a fair bit of overlap with the Indymedia site but I could be wrong.

I actually emailed the people behind he Indymedia Philly G20 site for their source code but not heard back from them...
Simon

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:17:28 +0100
From: richard at visionon.tv
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Subject: Re: [mediateam] The LIVE climatecamp event website

Hi everyone

Have now had the chance to have a look in detail at
the proposal for the new site (I was clear at Sunday's CCTV meeting
that that would be necessary for giving consent to it being the tv
site) - and I very much support its principle of setting up an
aggregated live mixed media site.  This should be really exciting and
productive during the Swoop.

I agree also, though, with the reservations above, viz:
1. It is
not a TV site, but a very valuable addition to the resources as a live
mixed media site - it therefore should have the domain
live.climatecamp.org.uk. Right now we have set up as a stop-gaplive.climatecamp.tv 

2. I share the reservations about the corporate solutions provided within it - these are closed source, whereas both climatecamp.org.uk and the climatecamp.tv
and indymedia are open source (the duplication of indymedia with
something which is closed source and has IP logging is particularly
problematic - agree with Jon also that we need to sort this out before the weekend).

But we like the experiment very much, and would welcome more comments from webteam on any issues that arise from using it this weekend.

One open source solution for after the Swoop would be to use the imc
pittsburgh code base (they had a fantastic aggregated site for the
recent G20).

Proposal:

We put this up when it is ready as a really happening lived mixed media site with the address live.climatecamp.org.uk

After the weekend we look at using imc philadelphia's code base for the
construction of a similar live media aggregated site which is open
source.

What do especially webteam, who have to set the url, think? I share
their concerns about indymedia, and confess I can't get my head round
it right now.....

Richard

2009/10/13 Jon Leighton <j at jonathanleighton.com>

Hiya,

That demo seems broken now - is it up elsewhere?

In general I think this is very cool technologically. But no-one seems

to be talking about how this relates to Indymedia and I think there is a

definite conflict there. Whatever we do with the website on the day,

we're going to need to be clear on one place where people should upload

their stuff.

I don't have any great pearls of wisdom, particularly as I am struggling

to actually stay awake, but just thought it was important to start the

conversation. It's super important we sort this out ASAP.

Cheers,

Jon

On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 01:06 +0100, hamish wrote:

> Looked at the website http://live.climatecamp.tv

>

> Interesting widget mash up. I like it, good to experiment with these.

>

> Discussion points

>

> * This site is the capture the flag site it has been around for a while?

>

> * Because it is made up of lots of different widgets all the parts of it

> have a different look and feel and different functionality, logins etc,

> making it unintuitive to navigate in places.

>

> * the anti-corporate geeks will have HUGE problems with the use of all

> corporate solutions, IP tracking, and lack of ownership of data that

> comes from using for profit software/hosting.

>

> * it isn’t finished yet.

>

> * It clearly isn’t a TV site, and works best as open publishing so isn’t

> a replacement for the existing website. See http://indypgh.org/g20/# as

> the same project at work.

>

> * Were will the channels be and what hosting will be used?

>

> * I can’t see how comments will be built in. Possible using something

> like http://js-kit.com which I tried 3 months ago, is it working now?

>

> Have created a domain to use http://live.climatecamp.tv  As this is a

> mixed media live site it should really be at live.climatecamp.org.uk -

> it would be more appropriate as a climatecamp.org url -it would be best

> to ask the cc webteam for that domain.

>

> Hamish

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