[Cc-webedit] [mediateam] The LIVE climatecamp event website

[theinnercityhippy at riseup.net]

hi all.

Wasn't at the meeting unfortunately but here are a few points i'd like to
make.

Firstly in regards to the pittsburgh code briefly. Their lack of reply may
be down to the fact that 2 activists were arrested by the fbi at the g20
on major conspiricy charges for using twitter to coordinate the protests
so everyone over there is a bit jumpy. After the event, we'll contact them
as northern imc and put in a request for it as they are more likely to
respond to this.

Secondly, all of these super cool media things are what the hyperactive
project was started to achieve. The best case scenario here in mx mind
would be for those wanting to work on this to join that development team
where there is already a strong aggregation base for development meaning
no duplication of content and help would be greatly appreciated. The
benefits for the cctv team is that you can then draw on a wealth of talent
from the global indy geek community and the movement as a whole will
benefit from what we produce.

Mx concerns about the corporate solutions out there are well known but i
concede that there is nothing that can be done in time for the swoop. I
therefore suggest that people use whatever for that, we will be providing
an accurate timeline and a mobile publishing site for the event as an
alternative, and that we sit down afterwards and find open source versions
of what went well (or write our own) and incorporate them into the
hyperactive project for future events. Then the live site can simply be
that with different branding perhaps?

We're going to make a full presentation to a national gathering soon on
the evils of closed source and corporate solutions with a view to getting
a moratorium on their primary use over our own solutions and this sounds
like it fits in perfectly with this discussion.

In solidarity

jimdog

ps there are a wealth of indy and non indy alt media resources and coders
out there on crabgrass and others which i can direct people to if they
wish :-)

> Hi everyone
>
> Have now had the chance to have a look in detail at the proposal for the
> new
> site (I was clear at Sunday's CCTV meeting that that would be necessary
> for
> giving consent to it being the tv site) - and I very much support its
> principle of setting up an aggregated live mixed media site.  This should
> be
> really exciting and productive during the Swoop.
>
> I agree also, though, with the reservations above, viz:
> 1. It is not a TV site, but a very valuable addition to the resources as a
> live mixed media site - it therefore should have the domain
> live.climatecamp.org.uk. Right now we have set up as a
> stop-gaplive.climatecamp.tv
> 2. I share the reservations about the corporate solutions provided within
> it
> - these are closed source, whereas both climatecamp.org.uk and the
> climatecamp.tv and indymedia are open source (the duplication of indymedia
> with something which is closed source and has IP logging is particularly
> problematic - agree with Jon also that we need to sort this out before the
> weekend).
>
> But we like the experiment very much, and would welcome more comments from
> webteam on any issues that arise from using it this weekend.
>
> One open source solution for after the Swoop would be to use the imc
> pittsburgh code base (they had a fantastic aggregated site for the recent
> G20).
>
> Proposal:
> We put this up when it is ready as a really happening lived mixed media
> site
> with the address live.climatecamp.org.uk
> After the weekend we look at using imc philadelphia's code base for the
> construction of a similar live media aggregated site which is open source.
>
> What do especially webteam, who have to set the url, think? I share their
> concerns about indymedia, and confess I can't get my head round it right
> now.....
>
> Richard
>
> 2009/10/13 Jon Leighton <j at jonathanleighton.com>
>
>> Hiya,
>>
>> That demo seems broken now - is it up elsewhere?
>>
>> In general I think this is very cool technologically. But no-one seems
>> to be talking about how this relates to Indymedia and I think there is a
>> definite conflict there. Whatever we do with the website on the day,
>> we're going to need to be clear on one place where people should upload
>> their stuff.
>>
>> I don't have any great pearls of wisdom, particularly as I am struggling
>> to actually stay awake, but just thought it was important to start the
>> conversation. It's super important we sort this out ASAP.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jon
>>
>> On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 01:06 +0100, hamish wrote:
>> > Looked at the website http://live.climatecamp.tv
>> >
>> > Interesting widget mash up. I like it, good to experiment with these.
>> >
>> > Discussion points
>> >
>> > * This site is the capture the flag site it has been around for a
>> while?
>> >
>> > * Because it is made up of lots of different widgets all the parts of
>> it
>> > have a different look and feel and different functionality, logins
>> etc,
>> > making it unintuitive to navigate in places.
>> >
>> > * the anti-corporate geeks will have HUGE problems with the use of all
>> > corporate solutions, IP tracking, and lack of ownership of data that
>> > comes from using for profit software/hosting.
>> >
>> > * it isnt finished yet.
>> >
>> > * It clearly isnt a TV site, and works best as open publishing so
>> isnt
>> > a replacement for the existing website. See http://indypgh.org/g20/#
>> as
>> > the same project at work.
>> >
>> > * Were will the channels be and what hosting will be used?
>> >
>> > * I cant see how comments will be built in. Possible using something
>> > like http://js-kit.com which I tried 3 months ago, is it working now?
>> >
>> > Have created a domain to use http://live.climatecamp.tv  As this is a
>> > mixed media live site it should really be at live.climatecamp.org.uk -
>> > it would be more appropriate as a climatecamp.org url -it would be
>> best
>> > to ask the cc webteam for that domain.
>> >
>> > Hamish
>> > plain text document attachment (message-footer.txt)
>> > -----------------------------
>> > To get to the Media Team Crabgrass, email press at climatecamp.org.uk to
>> request access
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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