[Cc-webedit] playlists

[Jim Dog]

Hi

Climatecamp.radio for 2010 anyone? :-)

Can i propose that this discussion doesn't take place on this working list. As far as i can see, despite some wrongly assuming that the police are crap at tech stuff (they are, but you can bet it is netcu and others pulling the teeth out of this), the videos are now plastered across the internet and almost certainly being handed round the staffroom at notts police station as we speak, and there is very little we can now do about that. There are doubtless lots of learning points for the next national gathering/cctv meeting to discuss (recommending people to mask up, always filming from behind etc), which are all better off being discussed face to face so there's no need for everyone to have a heated argument on this working list now.

It would be healthy if people can prepare for the inevitable necessity of dropping any animosity if we are all going to move forward together and use our various talents to try and make the better world that a thousand people turned up to fight
for last weekend.

In solidarity and looking forward to some incredibly mundane server administration being discussed :-)

jimdog

jimdog
-original message-
Subject: Re: [Cc-webedit] playlists
From: hamish <hamish at undercurrents.org>
Date: 21/10/2009 6:10 PM

Hi Rastko,

Am worried by this, the resion the films aren't on the CCTV site, and 
should have been taken down from the LIVE site - re-edited and re-posted 
is because of issues of identifying activist doing crimal damage (with 
no attempt to hide there identerty in the edit) and the use of copyright 
music which is agenst the terms of service of blips the host of both the 
LIVE site and CCTV. The has been good dicushern on these subjects and am 
shore a concesus is forming which can be agreed at the CCTV meeting.

For the embed codes just goto each film on CCTV then click on the embed 
option to get an embed code.

Here is a mail I sent to anther person who has been posting 
incriminating images, just to highlight the issue and what we can do now.

-----------------------

Hi *****,

Yes, it was problematic, were are you based, we are in London and happy 
to help to make good activist films (:

Hard to know what to do on these issues at this point - as the police 
will likely have copy's of the video by now, but isent certern as they 
can be very incompetent about tec stuff.

On balance, If you can take down all the incriminated stuff this is 
probely still a good idea - then do an edit with some seance blurred to 
re-post. If this comes to a court case your video will likely be used by 
the police in court. At least you have done the right thing in the end 
if you act now.

Lets hope they don't prosecute, might not as its continues the bad 
publiserty for them - cross your fingers.

Hamish
http://climatecamp.tv
http://visionon.tv
http://www.undercurrents.org

******** wrote:
 > Hi Hamish,
 > Amelia Gregory recommended I get in touch with you about some video 
footage I shot at the Climate Swoop (20mins). I am hoping to be able to 
use it in a short documentary but have been advised some of the footage 
could incriminate people.
 >
 > I'm not sure what qualifies a scene as incriminating (it seems like 
almost anything I videoed could be interpreted as evidence of 
conspiring, inciting or committing an offence). Would you be able to 
advise me on which bits I can use?
 >
 > Best wishes,
 > *********

Hope this helps.

Hamish




rastko novakovic wrote:
> Hello all,
>  
> Aplogies for the confusion. Just to clarify, it was me and Dan who asked 
> for the playlist to be changed (see email below). We were concerned that 
> there was stuff that is not being seen because of this youtube/tubemogul 
> malarkey. Hamish, if you send us the embed codes for the new stuff, we 
> will add those to the playlist. We should definitely have a conversation 
> about the problem with syndicating cc.tv <http://cc.tv/> stuff through 
> the Visionon account. Apologies to web team for suffering our internal 
> issues.
>  
> Regs, 
>  
> R
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Hello troopers!
> 
> Could we please change the current embedded playlist on the front page 
> of the climate camp website, to this new playlist of swoop only videos. 
> This is because there are videos that visiononTV do not want in their 
> playlist (current embedded playlist), that we would like to be seen.
>  
> The new playlist embed info is:
> <object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" 
> data="http://blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf?autostart=false&brandlink=http%3A//.blip.tv/&showplayerpath=http%3A//blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf&file=http%3A//blip.tv/bookmarks/rss/196110&user=CCTVUK&tabType1=details&tabType2=details&tabUrl2=http%3A//blip.tv/rss/bookmarks/196110 
> <http://blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf?autostart=false&brandlink=http%3A//.blip.tv/&showplayerpath=http%3A//blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf&file=http%3A//blip.tv/bookmarks/rss/196110&user=CCTVUK&tabType1=details&tabType2=details&tabUrl2=http%3A//blip.tv/rss/bookmarks/196110>" 
> width="640" height="368" allowfullscreen="true" id="showplayer"><param 
> name="movie" 
> value="http://blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf?autostart=false&brandlink=http%3A//.blip.tv/&showplayerpath=http%3A//blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf&file=http%3A//blip.tv/bookmarks/rss/196110&user=CCTVUK&tabType1=details& 
> tabType2=details&tabUrl2=http%3A//blip.tv/rss/bookmarks/196110 
> <http://blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf?autostart=false&brandlink=http%3A//.blip.tv/&showplayerpath=http%3A//blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf&file=http%3A//blip.tv/bookmarks/rss/196110&user=CCTVUK&tabType1=details&tabType2=details&tabUrl2=http%3A//blip.tv/rss/bookmarks/196110>" 
> /><param name="quality" value="best" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" 
> value="always" /></object>
>  
> In other words, the ONLY place one can see all the videos made at 
> Ratcliffe by Climate Camp tv is the archive of the live.climatecamp.tv 
> <http://live.climatecamp.tv/>.
>  
> Let us know,
> Rastko and Dan
> 
>  
>  
>  
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *hamish* <hamish at undercurrents.org <mailto:hamish at undercurrents.org>>
> Date: 2009/10/21
> Subject: [Cc-webedit] changes to the front page.
> To: cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org <mailto:cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org>
> Cc: richard hering <richard at visionon.tv <mailto:richard at visionon.tv>>
> 
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> The CCTV embed on the front page of climatecamp site has changed. It is 
> now missing many of the films produced for the swoop. And contains the 
> films that reveal peoples faces (and copyright infringing music). This 
> hasent been discued in climatecamptv nore on media or webedit lists, 
> thus the has been no process for this to happen. Can it please be 
> changed back and who ever made the change please explain the process 
> behind there actions, who asked for them and if/were was it announced. 
> Thanks.
> 
> Hamish Campbell
> one of http://climatecamp.tv <http://climatecamp.tv/>
>  


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