[Cc-webedit] playlists

[Emily James]

As far as I was aware, the only reason given at the time for taking the
films off of the CCTV site was concern over copywrite.

And it's not fair to say that 'no attempt' was made to protect people's
identities, as a great deal of care was in fact taken in this regard, as
outlined by both myself and Rastko previously.

I believe that the team struck the right balance on this one, and I would
stand behind the choices made.

However, if anyone disagrees, they are welcome to discuss this on Crabgrass
- where Rastko has started a page for the purpose. (It's on the Climate Camp
TV and Documenting team group, which is open, but if people want an
invitation so you can find it, just let me, Lauren, or anyone else in the
group know to invite you) And if there are specific concerns, details of
these might help to focus discussion, even if the horse has, indeed, already
bolted.

E

2009/10/21 hamish <hamish at undercurrents.org>

> Hi Rastko,
>
> Am worried by this, the resion the films aren't on the CCTV site, and
> should have been taken down from the LIVE site - re-edited and re-posted is
> because of issues of identifying activist doing crimal damage (with no
> attempt to hide there identerty in the edit) and the use of copyright music
> which is agenst the terms of service of blips the host of both the LIVE site
> and CCTV. The has been good dicushern on these subjects and am shore a
> concesus is forming which can be agreed at the CCTV meeting.
>
> For the embed codes just goto each film on CCTV then click on the embed
> option to get an embed code.
>
> Here is a mail I sent to anther person who has been posting incriminating
> images, just to highlight the issue and what we can do now.
>
> -----------------------
>
> Hi *****,
>
> Yes, it was problematic, were are you based, we are in London and happy to
> help to make good activist films (:
>
> Hard to know what to do on these issues at this point - as the police will
> likely have copy's of the video by now, but isent certern as they can be
> very incompetent about tec stuff.
>
> On balance, If you can take down all the incriminated stuff this is probely
> still a good idea - then do an edit with some seance blurred to re-post. If
> this comes to a court case your video will likely be used by the police in
> court. At least you have done the right thing in the end if you act now.
>
> Lets hope they don't prosecute, might not as its continues the bad
> publiserty for them - cross your fingers.
>
> Hamish
> http://climatecamp.tv
> http://visionon.tv
> http://www.undercurrents.org
>
> ******** wrote:
> > Hi Hamish,
> > Amelia Gregory recommended I get in touch with you about some video
> footage I shot at the Climate Swoop (20mins). I am hoping to be able to use
> it in a short documentary but have been advised some of the footage could
> incriminate people.
> >
> > I'm not sure what qualifies a scene as incriminating (it seems like
> almost anything I videoed could be interpreted as evidence of conspiring,
> inciting or committing an offence). Would you be able to advise me on which
> bits I can use?
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > *********
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Hamish
>
>
>
>
> rastko novakovic wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>  Aplogies for the confusion. Just to clarify, it was me and Dan who asked
>> for the playlist to be changed (see email below). We were concerned that
>> there was stuff that is not being seen because of this youtube/tubemogul
>> malarkey. Hamish, if you send us the embed codes for the new stuff, we will
>> add those to the playlist. We should definitely have a conversation about
>> the problem with syndicating cc.tv <http://cc.tv/> stuff through the
>> Visionon account. Apologies to web team for suffering our internal issues.
>>  Regs,  R
>>
>> Hello troopers!
>>
>> Could we please change the current embedded playlist on the front page of
>> the climate camp website, to this new playlist of swoop only videos. This is
>> because there are videos that visiononTV do not want in their playlist
>> (current embedded playlist), that we would like to be seen.
>>  The new playlist embed info is:
>> <object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="
>> http://blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf?autostart=false&brandlink=http%3A//.blip.tv/&showplayerpath=http%3A//blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf&file=http%3A//blip.tv/bookmarks/rss/196110&user=CCTVUK&tabType1=details&tabType2=details&tabUrl2=http%3A//blip.tv/rss/bookmarks/196110<
>> http://blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf?autostart=false&brandlink=http%3A//.blip.tv/&showplayerpath=http%3A//blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf&file=http%3A//blip.tv/bookmarks/rss/196110&user=CCTVUK&tabType1=details&tabType2=details&tabUrl2=http%3A//blip.tv/rss/bookmarks/196110>"
>> width="640" height="368" allowfullscreen="true" id="showplayer"><param
>> name="movie" value="
>> http://blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf?autostart=false&brandlink=http%3A//.blip.tv/&showplayerpath=http%3A//blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf&file=http%3A//blip.tv/bookmarks/rss/196110&user=CCTVUK&tabType1=details&tabType2=details&tabUrl2=http%3A//
>> blip.tv/rss/bookmarks/196110 <
>> http://blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf?autostart=false&brandlink=http%3A//.blip.tv/&showplayerpath=http%3A//blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf&file=http%3A//blip.tv/bookmarks/rss/196110&user=CCTVUK&tabType1=details&tabType2=details&tabUrl2=http%3A//blip.tv/rss/bookmarks/196110>"
>> /><param name="quality" value="best" /><param name="allowScriptAccess"
>> value="always" /></object>
>>  In other words, the ONLY place one can see all the videos made at
>> Ratcliffe by Climate Camp tv is the archive of the live.climatecamp.tv <
>> http://live.climatecamp.tv/>.
>>  Let us know,
>> Rastko and Dan
>>
>>    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: *hamish* <hamish at undercurrents.org <mailto:hamish at undercurrents.org
>> >>
>> Date: 2009/10/21
>> Subject: [Cc-webedit] changes to the front page.
>> To: cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org <mailto:cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org>
>> Cc: richard hering <richard at visionon.tv <mailto:richard at visionon.tv>>
>>
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> The CCTV embed on the front page of climatecamp site has changed. It is
>> now missing many of the films produced for the swoop. And contains the films
>> that reveal peoples faces (and copyright infringing music). This hasent been
>> discued in climatecamptv nore on media or webedit lists, thus the has been
>> no process for this to happen. Can it please be changed back and who ever
>> made the change please explain the process behind there actions, who asked
>> for them and if/were was it announced. Thanks.
>>
>> Hamish Campbell
>> one of http://climatecamp.tv <http://climatecamp.tv/>
>>
>>
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