[Cc-webedit] [mediateam] Climate Camp TV - websites and content and so on

[Emily James]

Now that the media team is switching over to Crabgrass, I think we should
have a CCTV space there too. But email lists still get the most
participation, and i for ne would like a bit more participation in some of
what's being discussed here.

We certainly never agreed that the feed on the climate camp home page would
carry just anything that was tagged Climate Camp, that leaves it way too
open to randomness. In all the discussions that I can remember, we always
said that it would carry the player from the CCTV home page. We had agreed a
process for deciding what gets promoted onto that channel, but it has never
actually been followed.

As it happens, I think that the films about the action at the coal plant are
actually the best thing to have on the home page of the climate camp site
right now - but certainly not the random Kew Eco-Village piece that's at the
top of the player right now.

Would it be possible to have a specific player (and tag) for films on the
Climate Camp home page? And then can we formulate, (and actually stick to!)
a process for deciding what goes on there. Films playing on that player
should need the approval of at least two or three people.

Rastko is right, the button on the bottom right of the embedded player
should be to the climatecamp.tv site, not the visionOn. I also think that
it's odd that films that were made on camp by CCTV crew come up with a
visionOn label at the start. Why doesn't it say Climate Camp TV there?

As for the text that describes the window on the Climate Camp site, that
depends on the criteria for what goes on there. I'd like to think that there
could be a way for us to include things that are relevant, like the films
about the Australian action... but I can't think how to frase a description
- other than maybe 'watch the latest films made by Climate Camp TV and other
related stuff'... which is a bit rubbish. Any suggestions?

As for comments, I don't understand why they can't be on the CCTV page?

Re donations: Yeah! someone cares about us! But yes, the first time that we
put a donations button up it pointed to the Undercurrents account (which is
were we had our original donation sent, and who agreed to be our accounts
keeper).

We do, indeed, need to agree a process for how to decide what to do with
donations and any other funds that we have. This has been totally ad hoc up
to now, but I think that we need something more transparent.

As for the design of the site: there are two people, Dan and Patch who I
have spoken to, but we need to decide what we want to do with it.

I know that a lot of people have complained (myself included) that it's not
possible to send people direct links to specific films. I don't understand
what is needed to fix this, or why it is this way, but I do know that it is
a problem which really needs addressing.

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2009/9/18 rastko novakovic <rastko.novakovic at gmail.com>

> *Hey Richard,*
> * *
> *I was unsure what the process for these decisions was and is and I think
> it would be good to discuss these in a wider forum. We still haven't sorted
> a CCTV list on crabgrass, so until then let's just stick with mediateam,
> unless people feel spammed? Please scroll down for replies.*
>
> 2009/9/18 richard hering <richard at visionon.tv>
>
>> Hi there
>>
>> Feeling a bit list-traffic-aware, I propose we take future discussion of
>> these rather detailed CCTV matters off these lists to a smaller set of
>> people - CCTV + Jon from website? Would anyone else like to be included? On
>> the other hand, if enough people on all three lists are interested in the
>> details of CCTV's rss feeds, then respect!
>>
>
>
>> Rastko Novakovic wrote:
>> > Dear Campers,
>> >
>> > I'm a bit confused as to how the feed for CCTV on the main website
>> > works. At the moment it seems to be feeding visionon.tv's main page?
>>
>> No - it is feeding all videos tagged "climatecamp".
>>
>
> *I think this is not a good idea, since we might have all sorts of stuff
> coming into the front page of the CC website and also it is not the voice of
> CCTV. What do other people say?*
>
>
>> It is not feeding VOTV's main page at all. There is a small link to the
>> VOTV main page in the bottom right corner of the embed, called "VOTV".  The
>> big link ("Climate Camp TV") goes to climatecamp.tv.  The other link on
>> climatecamp.org.uk also goes to climatecamp.tv.
>>
>
> *Yep, it just seemed to be the case, since the first 4 videos are the
> same.*
>
>
>>
>> > Underneath it reads "Watch the latest videos produced and edited on-site
>>
>> > at the camp" which is confusing.
>>
>>
>> Agreed - we need another wording (this one came from the web team, I
>> believe) . Any suggestions?
>
>
> *"Watch the latest videos produced by Climate Camp TV" ?*
>
>
>> > Also, the Hazelwood video which is now
>> > on climatecamptv.org although TOTALLY appropriate, is not a video
>> > produced by CCTV. There is a comments page pointing to visionon, which I
>>
>> > don't remember us discussing.
>>
>> Comments are very important to have, but they were impossible to implement
>> with the latest design of the climatecamp.tv site, so we just linked to
>> the visionOntv commenting in the interim.  Actually, the visionOntv
>> commenting is not really working yet, until we get "rss in" in the cms and
>> some programming work done, so I think it's best to take this out currently.
>>
>>
>
> *Cool. I think the comments can go to either an existing address for now,
> or we can set something up on CCTV, but I feel it is necessary that it is
> kept on the CCTV website. I feel we are already perhaps a little distant
> from the MEDIA team and I don't think we should be going even further away
> from CC.*
>
>
>
>> > Also, what does the DONATE button do?
>>
>> That's easy. It allows people to donate to Climate Camp TV - so far we
>> received a single donation of £20!
>>
>
> *I don't knock 20 quid! Just am wondering which account it is going into
> and how we spend the donations, since, to my knowledge, this hasn't been
> discussed at all. *
>
>
>> Think that answers all the questions (:  It would be great to find someone
>> to work more on the design of the site.
>>
> *I'll see what I can do.*
>
>
>> If anyone wants to be an admin so that they can work on the CCTV site send
>> a message to one of these current admins
>> > Richard Braude
>> > Mark Corbin
>> > Richard Hering
>> > Emily James
>> > San Do Kai
>> > rastko novakovic
>> > antoine S
>> > Lauren Jane Simpson
>>
>> You can ask Hamish for help as well.
>
>
> *DIY is fine and dandy, but (call me a Titoist) I fear lack of
> coordination. Heh :)*
>
> *Best,*
> *R*
>
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