[Cc-webedit] [imc-uk-tech] Embedded video player at climatecamp.org.uk

[Jon Leighton]

Hi Jim,

I agree with you that we should aim not to be embedding stuff from
corporate sites on our website. Apart from the privacy issues you raise,
I hate having a YouTube logo on our home page...

However, the embed was done in the middle of the camp without much time
to polish things and using a crappy dongle internet connection which
made it very slow to do anything. YouTube was the only place that I knew
the video to be readily available from so was the quickest way to get it
up.

It may be a little consolation that I activated the "privacy enhanced
mode" for the embed, which disables cookies being set or something.

I am copying in Felix who made the videos which were embedded during the
camp - perhaps he will be able to look at hosting them on websites other
than YouTube in the future.

Cheers,
Jon

On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 04:55 -0700, jagmad at riseup.net wrote:
> Its a very simple matter to embed a video on a website for those who have
> access to its HTML source.
> 
> There are alternatives to YouTube such as...
> 
> http://vimeo.com/
> 
> Also, you can put the video on a server somewhere and merely provide a
> link to it without embedding. See...
> 
> http://www.archive.org/
> 
> I am sure there are several more alternatives available.
> 
> Doug.
> 
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> > Hey all
> >
> > Just a bit worried about the embedding of the YouTube player on the
> > front page of the Climate Camp website during a day of mass action.
> > cc-ing in the imc-uk-tech list as well as people there may be able to
> > offer support in finding a suitable alternative.
> >
> > When visiting the front page of the Climate Camp website, all visitors
> > IP details are passed to several third parties without their consent or
> > knowledge. Firstly to YouTube who are hosting the video (and displaying
> > their branding on the player itself so Climate Camp is providing free
> > advertising for a corporate service).
> >
> > Also, this embed is being provided by another third party corporate
> > service, Conviva (http://www.conviva.com), whose privacy policy states:
> >
> > "We may disclose information under the following circumstances:
> >
> >     * - When we share anonymous, aggregated information generated by our
> > services with our business customers.
> >     * - When we share anonymous data with third party service companies
> > to facilitate or to provide certain services on our behalf.
> >     * - When we respond to subpoenas, court orders, or legal process or
> > to establish or exercise our legal rights or defend against legal claims.
> >     * - When we believe in our sole discretion it is necessary to share
> > information in order to investigate, prevent or take actions against
> > illegal activities, suspected fraud, situation involving potential
> > threats to the physical safety of any person, violations of term of use
> > of Conviva, or otherwise required by law.
> >     * - When we need to transfer information about you if Conviva is
> > acquired by or merged with another company.
> >     * - Links to Other Sites"
> >
> > If you go to the front page of the climate camp website, you will notice
> > an abundance of this and other online statistic gathering sites
> > hoovering up information on visitors of a site that promotes the use of
> > direct action (and is therefore of interest to law enforcement agencies).
> >
> > not worried? Check out these other little nuggets from the conviva
> > privacy policy:
> >
> > "while we strive to use commercially acceptable means to protect your
> > personal information, we cannot guarantee its absolute security."
> >
> > and
> >
> > "Your information may be transferred to, and maintained on, computers
> > located outside of your state, province, country or other government
> > jurisdiction where the privacy laws may not be as protective as those in
> > your jurisdiction. If you are located outside of the United States and
> > choose to provide information about you to Conviva, please be advised
> > that we transfer all information including personally identifiable
> > information to the United States and process it here. Your consent to
> > this Privacy Policy followed by your submission of such information
> > represents your agreement to that transfer."
> >
> > Note the fact that none of the users of the site have chosen to do so.
> >
> > Anyhow, the solution to this is to host such videos within the movement
> > rather than utilising corporate, paid for services to further a campaign
> > which many times over in the past has stated its anticapitalist aims.
> > There is of course Indymedia that these videos can be hosted at (that is
> > after all what Indymedia is for), but I am hoping that people on the UK
> > tech list can also suggest other, alternative options.
> >
> > Solidarity
> >
> > JimDog
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