[Cja] lobby fodder?

[Olivier demarcellus]

Well, I would think that talking of " climate justice, capitalism, 
neocolonialism, taking an non-institutional approach, using direct 
action etc." should give people a rough idea of where we're coming from! 
That said, making links isn't necessarily being lobby fodder. It should 
just be clear that it isn't our primary concern in a meeting.
O
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>     1. Re: 2011 International CJA meeting letter in FRENCH (Bert)
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> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:10:46 +0000
> From: Bert<antistrata at riseup.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Cja] 2011 International CJA meeting letter in FRENCH
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> Quite possibly....
> The eternal problem of what climate justice means?! ;)
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> B
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> On 25/01/2011 16:33, Chris Kitchen wrote:
>> actually looking back at the questions, we didn't really say anything
>> about what we mean by climate justice, capitalism, neocolonialism,
>> taking an non-institutional approach, using direct action etc.
>>
>> Does anyone else think this could cause problems in terms of who comes?
>>
>> On 25 January 2011 16:27, Chris Kitchen<chriskitchen at gmail.com
>> <mailto:chriskitchen at gmail.com>>  wrote:
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>>      interesting. Hope this doesn't come across as devisice, but those
>>      doing civil disobedience tend not to like being treated as
>>      lobbying fodder for those that work more institutionally.  Part of
>>      the point of working outside intitutional channels is to acheive
>>      systemic change from below, not just more effective lobbying.
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>>      On 25 January 2011 16:11, Laura :)<globalvegan at googlemail.com
>>      <mailto:globalvegan at googlemail.com>>  wrote:
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>>          Hey all,
>>          this is from camille, who lives in Lille, she's translated the
>>          letter into french&  given the following answers. she's been
>>          trying to organise stuff amongst french youth&  she seems
>>          pretty keen to get everyone who's working on climate in france
>>          to start talking to each other. I reckon she'd be interested
>>          in coming to paris for a meeting too.
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>>          I really don't have any time right now to be forwarding the
>>          letter out specifically to people&  ask for their responses.
>>          it would be great if someone could though!!
>>
>>          xx laura
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>>          Her answers are : /
>>          1)What is essential to you and your organizations climate
>>          justice agenda right now? / *European power shift and building
>>          bridges between youth french climate organizations*
>>          /
>>          2)//Why should climate justice comrades come together for an
>>          international meeting, and what should the focus of the CJA
>>          meeting be about?/
>>          *We need to strengththe international movement cause we need
>>          international answer; we as youth want to talk about the youth
>>          movement strategy, and find an answer on how to link people
>>          that works more "institutionally" and people that are doing
>>          civil desobedience.
>>          *
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