[Cja] lobby fodder?

[Julie Gorecki]

Hey Guys,

This is a really good discussion. I hope if people/groups start replying to
the questions then we will hopefully be able to talk about climate justice ,
capitalism ....neocolonialism etc  when we send out an email about location
and what the meeting is about.
Hopefully someone is capable of writing a small paragraph on these things
without spinning into madness. I would need about 5000 words, soooooo.....
yum yes... pas moi.

I also think anyone who is new to joining CJA would see our message and
methods on our website.

However I think it is important to make our direct action message clear cut
and obvious if there is a final email that moves forward with the topic and
meaning of the CJA international meeting- good thinking.

Best,

Julie



On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Olivier demarcellus
<elviejo at greenmail.ch>wrote:

> Well, I would think that talking of " climate justice, capitalism,
> neocolonialism, taking an non-institutional approach, using direct action
> etc." should give people a rough idea of where we're coming from! That said,
> making links isn't necessarily being lobby fodder. It should just be clear
> that it isn't our primary concern in a meeting.
> O
>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>    1. Re: 2011 International CJA meeting letter in FRENCH (Bert)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:10:46 +0000
>> From: Bert<antistrata at riseup.net>
>> To: cja at lists.aktivix.org
>> Subject: Re: [Cja] 2011 International CJA meeting letter in FRENCH
>> Message-ID:<4D3FF326.1050102 at riseup.net>
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>> Quite possibly....
>> The eternal problem of what climate justice means?! ;)
>>
>> B
>>
>> On 25/01/2011 16:33, Chris Kitchen wrote:
>>
>>> actually looking back at the questions, we didn't really say anything
>>> about what we mean by climate justice, capitalism, neocolonialism,
>>> taking an non-institutional approach, using direct action etc.
>>>
>>> Does anyone else think this could cause problems in terms of who comes?
>>>
>>> On 25 January 2011 16:27, Chris Kitchen<chriskitchen at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:chriskitchen at gmail.com>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>     interesting. Hope this doesn't come across as devisice, but those
>>>     doing civil disobedience tend not to like being treated as
>>>     lobbying fodder for those that work more institutionally.  Part of
>>>     the point of working outside intitutional channels is to acheive
>>>     systemic change from below, not just more effective lobbying.
>>>
>>>     On 25 January 2011 16:11, Laura :)<globalvegan at googlemail.com
>>>     <mailto:globalvegan at googlemail.com>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>         Hey all,
>>>         this is from camille, who lives in Lille, she's translated the
>>>         letter into french&  given the following answers. she's been
>>>         trying to organise stuff amongst french youth&  she seems
>>>         pretty keen to get everyone who's working on climate in france
>>>         to start talking to each other. I reckon she'd be interested
>>>         in coming to paris for a meeting too.
>>>
>>>         I really don't have any time right now to be forwarding the
>>>         letter out specifically to people&  ask for their responses.
>>>         it would be great if someone could though!!
>>>
>>>         xx laura
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Her answers are : /
>>>         1)What is essential to you and your organizations climate
>>>         justice agenda right now? / *European power shift and building
>>>         bridges between youth french climate organizations*
>>>         /
>>>         2)//Why should climate justice comrades come together for an
>>>         international meeting, and what should the focus of the CJA
>>>         meeting be about?/
>>>         *We need to strengththe international movement cause we need
>>>         international answer; we as youth want to talk about the youth
>>>         movement strategy, and find an answer on how to link people
>>>         that works more "institutionally" and people that are doing
>>>         civil desobedience.
>>>         *
>>>
>>>
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>>
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