[Dissent-bristol-info] first thoughts on climate change

[autonomous at riseup.net]

agreed we need to make it clearer what we mean by climate change and
global warming also how deforestation adds to problem.  I will add this in
thenext couple of days.  I'm pretty sure that kyoto is a UN invention.

I'll get rid of today - although that's why I put the date in!

the ending is a bit negative but I then I think we're all doomed, what do
you suggest?

any good points?

see you later,


> Hi - good to see a start is made. Here's a few
> comments:
> - Need to define clearly & briefly what we mean by
> climate change/global warming, don't assume Joe Bloggs
> knows.
> - Make a clearer link between the G8 & climate change
> ie was Kyoto a G8 inspired initiative? If yes say so.
> - make it clear Blair has said G8 2005 will focus on
> climate change.
> - don't use the word 'today' in leaflets as it's
> already out of date.
> - Russia didn't formally ratify Koyoto on 23/10, it
> was only (I think) the 'lower parliament' or similar.
> It ain't ratified til Putin signs it off.
> - ending is a bit negative, implies there's no point
> us in the UK doing anything to be greener. Not the
> message we wanna give out surely!
>
> cheers........mh
>
>  --- autonomous at riseup.net wrote:
>> these are the first thoughts I've put together about
>> climate
>> change...maybe we need a short description about how
>> the emissions are
>> bringing about warming and what have you?  we can
>> talk about it on tuesday
>>
>> The G8 and Climate Change
>>
>>
>> The Kyoto protocol came into being in 1997 and is an
>> extension of the
>> Montreal protocol of 198?.  The protocol states that
>> those signed up
>> will limit their emission levels to those of 1990.
>>
>> Although the protocol has been ratified by over 150
>> countries the main
>> polluters are yet to agree to its terms.  Today
>> (23rd Oct 2004) Russia
>> ratified the protocol, but, this is allegedly in a
>> deal with the EU
>> member states to allow it to get membership to the
>> World Trade
>> Organisation (WTO)!
>>
>> China and India are not part of the protocol because
>> they were not
>> considered industrialised in 1997.  However, both of
>> these countries
>> have seen high levels of economic growth in the last
>> seven years to
>> the extent that their demand for oil is such that
>> between them they
>> represent 40% of the world's oil growth[1].
>>
>> In 2003 China's energy demand was equivalent to that
>> of Japan, South
>> Korea, India and Indonesia combined, or some 80% of
>> the EU-15 states,
>> and it increased by 14% in that year. In 2002 China
>> overtook Japan to
>> become the second largest consumer of oil [2].
>> Remember that China
>> are not even party to the Kyoto protocol.
>>
>> Another of the world's worst polluters the USA have
>> pulled out of
>> Kyoto.  George Bush is on record as saying that he
>> believes the
>> science of global warming to be suspect.  Could we
>> expect anything
>> else from a son of one of America's oil families?
>> Without the support
>> of China, India and the USA there is no hope that
>> emissions of
>> Carbon Dioxide (CO2) gas will fall.
>>
>> In a speech given in central London Tony Blair
>> warned of catastrophic
>> consequences for our world and way of life if the
>> international
>> community does not take action. No one nation can
>> resolve the issue,
>> he said.  Blair said "To acquire global leadership,
>> on this issue
>> Britain must demonstrate it first at home".
>>
>> Unless China voluntarily cut their emissions and the
>> USA can be
>> persuaded to ratify Kyoto, both very unlikely, then
>> whatever we do
>> here in Britain will be lost in the heat....
>>
>> [1]
>>
> http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-10/07/content_380099.htm
>>
>> [2]
>>
> http://www.dundee.ac.uk/cepmlp/journal/html/Vol14/article14_6.html
>>
>> [3]
>> http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page6335.asp
>>
>>
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